I use Purelymail to send emails from my personal domain (admin@domain.tld) from my self-hosted stuff and to forward emails to my personal domain to my gmail, and it works great for that. I only use it for hobby projects so I'm not too bothered by the lack of audits or a bus factor of 1.
Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email
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Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email
#142I also use this. Pros: super cheap. Cons: UI is bad, so you'll want to access through a client. 1 person shop. Not audited AFAIK.
https://mailbox.org comes pretty close.
I know online services or any service depends a lot on personal interaction experiences and personal expectations from those services and people involved in those services, but I can't leave mailbox.org sooner.
I have tried/explored couple of them like Mailbox.org (of course, current user), Fastmail, Proton, and Runbox etc. Given everything http://runbox.com seems to be the best among them - much better than Mailbox. In fact for Mailbox their less than 'less than ideal' support is enough for me to move elsewhere once my balance runs out (which I foolishly pumped in more than I should have had)
Runbox isn't w/o its challenges but they do certain things really nice and they are: prompt, not into disregard a request in its entirety, not un-kind, not-jerk, not-flippant, not-entitled, not-costly, not into offering unusable shit that you don't need in an email suite to begin with, and basically open and engaging.
So while I am not a customer right now, once the mailbox.org balance is close to running out and I will leave mailbox (and leave them I will) Runbox is the first contender to replace them right now.
Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's gmail in the sense that they deliver you+[whatever]@gmail.com to you@gmail.com By default it's just a valid character.
nope, exactly this feature you describe is what i am referring to. it's not a gmail invention. not by a long shot.
TIL! Thanks, was not aware of that.
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Whenever I come across landing pages I always wonder, how many people are the "we" and "team" really. It feels disingenuous to use these terms under such circumstances, but he's definitely not a minority doing so. It's kinda the norm, wherever we (｡ ◕ ‿ ◕ ｡) like it or not
I think it sounds natural to say "we" in the context of a company even if it's a one-person company, but I just know english as a second language.
Me and my accountant...
Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's gmail in the sense that they deliver you+[whatever]@gmail.com to you@gmail.com By default it's just a valid character.
nope, exactly this feature you describe is what i am referring to. it's not a gmail invention. not by a long shot.
I think it originated with CMU's email system (the use of the "+" sign specifically).
Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email
#146Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email
#147The pricing model is very well thought out and worth studying. Cheap but not free generous base layer, that falls back to prepaid credit resource based billing for high users. Even details like punitively increased pricing to discourage higher risk outbound email patterns.
This removes risks from both seller and buyer. The seller is not afraid of an avalanche of free trial users resulting in a big cloud bill. The user is not afraid of surprise overages (cough recent Vercel scandals cough) nor has to think about usage patterns that fit into arbitrary quotas, nor about surprises that catch up to you if you use the service at scale.
This is the way to do small utilities that have a cloud cost; services of the 'save you the trouble of self-hosting' type, or the 'tool somebody writes once, and people might use occasionally for years' pattern.
Maybe not the way to extract maximum value and growth for an ambitious startus, but a good choice for the many modest niche services out there.
Re: Purelymail: Cheap, no-nonsense email
#148I also use this. Pros: super cheap. Cons: UI is bad, so you'll want to access through a client. 1 person shop. Not audited AFAIK.
posteo has been great for me and also allows you to define aliases, thou each alias costs 10c per month. If you stay below 10 aliases, it is <2€ per month as well.
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They have an optional writing assistant thing that uses their own in-house model. Sweden is mostly hydro and nuclear, so the environmental arguments against generative AI don't hold up very well.
Proton is Swiss, not Swedish
Late night mixup. Switzerland is also substantially hydro, nuclear, and renewables and headed toward eliminating fossil fuels, so the point still stands. It doesn't contribute to the crisis in the way most generative AI does.
They also ran their datacenters on 100% renewables as of 3 years ago: https://old.reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/comments/pa76za/is_proto...