The beginning of the article was good, but the analysis of DeepSeek and what it means for Nvidia is confused and clearly out of the loop. * People have been training models at
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Re: The impact of competition and DeepSeek on Nvidia
#92Great article but it seems to have a fatal flaw. As pointed out in the article, Nvidia has several advantages including: - Better Linux drivers than AMD - CUDA - pytorch is optimized for Nvidia - High-speed interconnect Each of the advantages is under attack: - George Hotz is making better drivers for AMD - MLX, Triton, JAX: Higher level abstractions that compile down to CUDA - Cerbras and Groq solve the interconnect…
Re: The impact of competition and DeepSeek on Nvidia
#93Great article but it seems to have a fatal flaw. As pointed out in the article, Nvidia has several advantages including: - Better Linux drivers than AMD - CUDA - pytorch is optimized for Nvidia - High-speed interconnect Each of the advantages is under attack: - George Hotz is making better drivers for AMD - MLX, Triton, JAX: Higher level abstractions that compile down to CUDA - Cerbras and Groq solve the interconnect…
Sorry, I don’t know who George Hotz is, but why isn’t AMD making better drivers for AMD?
(Famous for hacking the PS3–except he just took credit for a separate group’s work. And for making a self-driving car in his garage—except oh wait that didn’t happen either.)
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry, I don’t know who George Hotz is, but why isn’t AMD making better drivers for AMD?
George Hotz is a hot Internet celebrity that has basically accomplished nothing of value but has a large cult following. You can safely ignore. (Famous for hacking the PS3–except he just took credit for a separate group’s work. And for making a self-driving car in his garage—except oh wait that didn’t happen either.)
Re: The impact of competition and DeepSeek on Nvidia
#95Great article but it seems to have a fatal flaw. As pointed out in the article, Nvidia has several advantages including: - Better Linux drivers than AMD - CUDA - pytorch is optimized for Nvidia - High-speed interconnect Each of the advantages is under attack: - George Hotz is making better drivers for AMD - MLX, Triton, JAX: Higher level abstractions that compile down to CUDA - Cerbras and Groq solve the interconnect…
I want the NVIDIA monopoly to end, but there is no real competition still. * George Hotz has basically given up on AMD: https://x.com/__tinygrad__/status/1770151484363354195 * Groq can't produce more hardware past their "demo". It seems like they haven't grown capacity in the years since they announced, and they switched to a complete SaaS model and don't even sell hardware anymore. * I dont know enough about MLX, Tr…
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#96Earlier quoted context omitted.
AMD P/E ratio is 109, NVDA is 56. Which stock is overvalued?
If it were all so simple, they wouldn’t pay hedge fund analysts so much money…
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#97Re: The impact of competition and DeepSeek on Nvidia
#98NVDA was overpriced a lot already even without r1, the market is full of air GPUs hiding in the capex of tech giants like MSFT.
If orders are canceled or delivery fails for any reason, NVDA’s EPS would be pulled back to its fundamentally justified level
or if all those air GPUs are produced and delivered in recent years, and the demand keeps rising? well, that will be a crazy world then
it's a finance game, not related with the real world
Re: The impact of competition and DeepSeek on Nvidia
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry, I don’t know who George Hotz is, but why isn’t AMD making better drivers for AMD?
George Hotz is a hot Internet celebrity that has basically accomplished nothing of value but has a large cult following. You can safely ignore. (Famous for hacking the PS3–except he just took credit for a separate group’s work. And for making a self-driving car in his garage—except oh wait that didn’t happen either.)
Re: The impact of competition and DeepSeek on Nvidia
#100Great article but it seems to have a fatal flaw. As pointed out in the article, Nvidia has several advantages including: - Better Linux drivers than AMD - CUDA - pytorch is optimized for Nvidia - High-speed interconnect Each of the advantages is under attack: - George Hotz is making better drivers for AMD - MLX, Triton, JAX: Higher level abstractions that compile down to CUDA - Cerbras and Groq solve the interconnect…
Not really, his article focuses on Nvidia's being valued so highly by stock markets, he's not saying that Nvidia's destined to lose its advantage in the space in the short term.
In any case, I also think that the likes of MSFT/AMZN/etc will be able to reduce their capex spending eventually by being able to work on a well integrated stack on their own.