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Re: USA restricts Swiss access to AI computer chips

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This restriction makes no sense. The US says "18 countries may purchase our AI chips", but what I understand is "90% of the world may purchase Chinese AI chips". China just needs to infiltrate Taiwan, which is geographically and culturally closer than the US.

It makes perfect sense if they're laundering Russian assets to circumvent US Sanctions.

Re: USA restricts Swiss access to AI computer chips

#52
post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Being from Denmark I have always been puzzled by how US/UK media portray us as neo-Hitlers for being slightly more critical of MENA immigration than our neighbors. Meanwhile Switzerland has been doing what almost amounts to white-only immigration to the point that their "troublesome" immigrants are Europeans from Albanaia and Serbia. Neutrality is good for PR.

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The US classifies people into racial categories based on skin tone, and then imagines that these racial categories are objective and used around the world.

Re: USA restricts Swiss access to AI computer chips

#53
post #48

It's no surprise the Swiss have been classified as second tier country given plenty of evidence Switzerland has enabled money laundering for an adversary. You can't both deny an ally amo to claim neutrality while holding their enemies cash amo. Russia’s Alpine Assets: Money Laundering and Sanctions Evasion in Switzerland. https://www.csce.gov/press-releases/hearing-russias-alpine-a...

Switzerland is historically neutral going back 500 years. You can’t be neutral while picking sides, and the munitions block was precisely to protect that neutrality. It’s not difficult to understand.

Re: USA restricts Swiss access to AI computer chips

#54
post #8
post #2

Do the Swiss want to be considered someone's ally or neutral?

Being from Denmark I have always been puzzled by how US/UK media portray us as neo-Hitlers for being slightly more critical of MENA immigration than our neighbors. Meanwhile Switzerland has been doing what almost amounts to white-only immigration to the point that their "troublesome" immigrants are Europeans from Albanaia and Serbia. Neutrality is good for PR.

Sorry but I'll respectfully disagree. I've lived in Copenhagen, Zurich and the US anf traveled allt hose countries extensively. Danes are not portrayed as hitlers nor is CH doing "almost white-only immigration." Check out at least the french parts of Switzerland as a counter example. But I am sorry for any country that doesn't enforce their laws. Immigration only works if the rule of law works and when that's the case, it doesn't matter where people come from.

Re: USA restricts Swiss access to AI computer chips

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> European countries would do well to stop being so complacent and relying on US for high-tech and defense, and invest heavily on having a competitive local defense and high-tech industry, Yes, I like this speech better with the von der Lyon accent, when I heard it a couple days ago.

Got a source to that? Knowing VDL I don't doubt it, just would like to hear it for myself to have a laugh, since she's the most hypocritical, useless, corrupt, champagne socialist in Europe.

Depends, do you want those words nearly verbatim? Here's a clip I heard today: https://noagendaassets.com/enc/1737931650.953_queenursulaind...

Here's "its in no ones interest to break the bonds of global economy": https://noagendaassets.com/enc/1737931650.953_queenursulaind...

Working backward: https://noagendaassets.com/enc/1737672200.295_davos-queenurs...

I may have conflated someone else talking about defense at Davos this week with her speech(as). Apologies.

Re: USA restricts Swiss access to AI computer chips

#56

It doesn't matter now as deepseek has shown. Also this was done under Binden so we have no idea what Trump will do. However it does spoil the relationship and maybe the next time around when Switzerland is ready to spend 6B Swiss Francs on planes it won't be US made ones. Additionally if Trump doesn't follow the agreed upon global minimum tax which Switzerland also bent over backwards for why would it do any such agr…

> It doesn't matter now as deepseek has shown People keep saying that DeepSeek R1's training cost is just $5.6M. Where is the source? I'm not even asking for the proof. Just the source, even a self-claimed statement. I've read the R1's paper and it doesn't say the number of $5.6M. Is it somewhere in DeepSeek's press release? Google just gives me a lot of medium articles and journalist sites. It sounds awfully like a…

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Re: USA restricts Swiss access to AI computer chips

#57
post #2

Do the Swiss want to be considered someone's ally or neutral?

All of them at the same time, they want to eat their cake, have their cake, sell their cake and rent their cake. Neutral means you get to profit from doing business with all sides at the same time while spinning some virtuous BS PR how you don't take any sides while you deal under the table with bloody war lords. That's how Switzerland and later Austria got rich in the cold war, by being the middle men between the NA…

Switzerland is not that neutral anymore. For example, they have been adopting the same EU's sanctions against Russia, so they do not have the same role of middleman.

Re: USA restricts Swiss access to AI computer chips

#58
post #48

It's no surprise the Swiss have been classified as second tier country given plenty of evidence Switzerland has enabled money laundering for an adversary. You can't both deny an ally amo to claim neutrality while holding their enemies cash amo. Russia’s Alpine Assets: Money Laundering and Sanctions Evasion in Switzerland. https://www.csce.gov/press-releases/hearing-russias-alpine-a...

Switzerland is historically neutral going back 500 years. You can’t be neutral while picking sides, and the munitions block was precisely to protect that neutrality. It’s not difficult to understand.

They picked the side of Russian oligarchy cash it seems.

Re: USA restricts Swiss access to AI computer chips

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I'm not trying to take sides in this, but your link seems to support the parent who you're disagreeing with. You have to get to the 14th most popular origin to see the first non-European immigrant. Which this, like usual, follows a power law distribution. So yeah, looks like most immigrants are coming from Germany, Italy, Portugal, Spain, and Kosovo. Last I checked, they are all white European countries.

There might be some part of the population missing in those particular numbers (refugees). For example there should be approximately 67'000 Ukrainians on that list, but I don't see it.

Re: USA restricts Swiss access to AI computer chips

#60

It doesn't matter now as deepseek has shown. Also this was done under Binden so we have no idea what Trump will do. However it does spoil the relationship and maybe the next time around when Switzerland is ready to spend 6B Swiss Francs on planes it won't be US made ones. Additionally if Trump doesn't follow the agreed upon global minimum tax which Switzerland also bent over backwards for why would it do any such agr…

> It doesn't matter now as deepseek has shown People keep saying that DeepSeek R1's training cost is just $5.6M. Where is the source? I'm not even asking for the proof. Just the source, even a self-claimed statement. I've read the R1's paper and it doesn't say the number of $5.6M. Is it somewhere in DeepSeek's press release? Google just gives me a lot of medium articles and journalist sites. It sounds awfully like a…

It's in the DeepSeek V3 paper, not the R1 paper. https://arxiv.org/html/2412.19437v1#abstract

"assuming the rental price of the H800 GPU is $2 per GPU hour, our total training costs amount to only $5.576M."

Note that's for V3, the base model; we don't know how much extra R1 cost to train.

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