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The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Yep. They obviously learned nothing from killing Xbox overnight. As an IT person I can guarantee this rebranding is going to cause confusion that will waste my time. That being said, Coke killed Coke Zero and seems to be doing okay I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Coke Zero still exists? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola_Zero_Sugar

it's now coca cola zero sugar.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Coke Zero still exists? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coca-Cola_Zero_Sugar

it's now coca cola zero sugar.

Literally everyone I know calls it "Coke Zero" - in fact, the "Zero" pattern has spread to the various soda companies to reflect the particular style of zero sugar.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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My problem with this isn't the price increase. It's the blurring of what used to be a clearly understandable suite of products (e.g. Office) and services (e.g. OneDrive) into a soup of weird AI and cloud stuff that all goes under a single unhelpful name (Copilot). My mental model of what I'm actually purchasing is broken in this new paradigm.

> that all goes under a single unhelpful name (Copilot) This isn't even a new dumb move for Microsoft. In the early 2000s, they applied the .NET brand to lots of random things that were completely unrelated to the runtime/framework: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_.NET_strategy

Ahhh!! So that's when they added .NET to the name Visual Basic .NET

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Not only did the megacorp CEO's drop the ball on AI... we've got them gloating over widespread firing of engineers due to AI and then quotes like "I'm good for my $80B" like its his own personal money bag. And now they're force feeding crappy alpha AI products. The egos are well out of hand. And they give this group the name "The Magnificent Seven". WTF have we become. We trust these companies to be stewards of AGI/A…

So much this, when you see Zuck or even Jensen Huang saying "software engineers won't be needed anymore" and being excited about it you get pissed off as a software engineer lol. I feel like Microsoft's whole thing with Windows 11 has been "just force the users to do what we want them to do, we know better than they do" so it doesn't surprise me that 365 went the same way. I'm saying this and I'm a person that's usua…

My thought has been they are forcing it knowing nobody, as in 98% of people, would give a crap about most of the AI features. People have been using these tools for decades now to solve their problems and there's a lot of muscle memory to overcome even if the 'new way' were in fact better. I myself have found I only adopt new software, and techniques (including things like using/learning keyboard shortcuts, etc), that's a minimum of 2X better/faster than my de facto personal preference or legacy approach of tackling the problem. And, even if >10X, if it's something I do infrequent I still won't be interested in changing my ways. I have a lot of muscle memory that goes into how I build something like a new spreadsheet, even complicated ones. I'm not interested in putting AI into that process.

I have a grandfather that actually took an early retirement package, age 55, specifically because company gave him an ultimatum regarding switching from typewriter to a PC in the 80s. I feel like AI is pushing me towards making that same choice, I don't really care for using it in my work specifically (have no ultimatum at present).

I use it sparsely and it's more of a toy/novelty to me. Although, I do see how it helps other fields more/less and could replace humans in some professions - I'm not a SWE.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Hate that if you use Word for Mac, you now have Copilot next to your cursor with no way of turning it off. I just want to use Word. I like its print layout features better than Pages. I don't want to switch. Just let me write and leave me alone. Now they're jamming AI down my throat without any opt-out mechanism.

Libreoffice is way better than Pages.

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Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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So much this, when you see Zuck or even Jensen Huang saying "software engineers won't be needed anymore" and being excited about it you get pissed off as a software engineer lol. I feel like Microsoft's whole thing with Windows 11 has been "just force the users to do what we want them to do, we know better than they do" so it doesn't surprise me that 365 went the same way. I'm saying this and I'm a person that's usua…

> So much this, when you see Zuck or even Jensen Huang saying "software engineers won't be needed anymore" and being excited about it you get pissed off as a software engineer lol. The real story nobody is saying out loud is that CEOs are much more replaceable by AI than are software engineers.

> The real story nobody is saying out loud is that CEOs are much more replaceable by AI than are software engineers.

Sorry, but that’s not true at all. It doesn’t really make a lot of sense. Who is replacing the CEO of a company with AI? The board? The board doesn’t want/can’t run the company. They will hire someone to “run the CEO AI”? Won’t that just be a CEO using AI? Maybe that makes it so the CEO is paid less Because now they just run OpenCEOv4? I don’t see it happening though. Also a very large portion of the day to day of CEO level execs at those big companies interpersonal and/or performative. You won’t be replacing that with AI anytime soon. You still need a face of it at the end of the day.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Why not LibreOffice?

Last time I tried it (maybe 20 years ago?) there were fidelity issues (documents didn't display exactly identical to authentic Word), and some differences in minor features. I should probably give it another whirl, although I'm really happy with 2003.

Honestly it has improved quite a bit. The excel like product calc could be better.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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essentially it would be the end of employment and return to feudalism likely followed by either a French Revolution (if lucky) or a Russian Revolution (if not)

Of what use are the peasants in an AI driven and dominated feudal society, though. Maybe us peasants be useful in wars or battles between the different lords, but this would also probably be performed by automated drones and robots. It would seem that the Lord‘s will have nothing to Lord over though. Who’s gonna buy their crap and for what reason will they they create anything? The whole thing seems like a massive do…

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