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The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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I don't even know what Copilot is anymore. Typical Microsoft bullshit. It started off as an MS copy of ChatGPT which was really good, especially as ChatGPT bans Hong Kong because China boo boo bad and all that dumb shit. But now suddenly it's an AI version of Siri, giving short responses to questions. Why? I stopped bothering with it

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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The crazy part to me is that, with a family subscription, the new AI privileges are only available to the primary account holder and not the rest of my family. That’s nuts. > For Microsoft 365 Family subscribers, Copilot will be available to the subscription owner and cannot be shared with others. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/blog/2025/01/1...

Maybe they are at least trying to avoid collecting data of underage people...

Yeah but then at least allow one to manually enable things later if they so choose, but I guess the cost aspect of the AI goes too close to negative even after the second user.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

#353

Hate that if you use Word for Mac, you now have Copilot next to your cursor with no way of turning it off. I just want to use Word. I like its print layout features better than Pages. I don't want to switch. Just let me write and leave me alone. Now they're jamming AI down my throat without any opt-out mechanism.

Even worse is I get this stupid Copilot thing while typing, interrupting me every two seconds to "generate my text with copilot" instead of oh you know writing text in Word. And when I try it out I get "We encountered a problem validating your Copilot ! license. Learn more about Copilot licensing"

and it doesn't work.

No explanation. I pay for this Office shit (won't anymore now obviously). AI is ruining everything either directly or indirectly. Congrats.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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It's time to reinstall Office 2010, the last known good 64-bit version of Office.

And yet you'll have a ton of people tell you everything since 2007 has just been terrible and completely unusable and unfit for purpose. Others will tell you Office 2003 was massively bloated and used way more RAM than necessary and had way too slow startup times.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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We will solve the cheating problem with more AI, all essays will need to be written in 3 hour time windows in web portals with key-logging + copilot off and children on webcam the entire time. An AI will assess all the data and tell you if the child cheated or not. Of course no one will care if you're good at writing essays in the future, and having that skill just means you're working a low paying training data crea…

I sort of had that in my HS English classes more than 30 years ago. Every paper we ever wrote for my final two years was in class for one hour. Occasionally we would get a second class period to work on our papers but the teacher held them until the next class period. I got really good at getting my thoughts down quickly and efficiently. My freshman English course in college nearly broke me however since we were requ…

Blue books are back baby!

Honestly the most impactful writings I ever had to write in my education were required to fit within a standard bluebook.

https://uvamagazine.org/articles/blue_books

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

#356
Google also did something like this to people with Business Standard Workspace licenses (i.e. the ones who signed up for Google for Domains and got bamboozled into an enterprise offering that limited Google functionality quite noticeably...but that's a topic for another post).

Two weeks ago, we were notified that our accounts had licenses Gemini for Enterprise enabled by default, at no extra cost. With that change came an absolute walloping of AI nudges in Gmail, Calendar and Drive apps.

The only way to turn it off was to contact support so they could enable two hidden checkboxes in the Admin panel that turn off Gemini for good.

Note that any users in a Google Workspace tenant can still enable Gemini outside of the org somehow. Upgrading to Enterprise licenses _might_ prevent this "feature."

I hate this timeline in tech.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Please, never in its history has anything from Microsoft been "clearly understandable".

Notepad is quite simple

It even has usable features, like inserting the current date and time (my cat showed me that one!)

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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I tried using Copilot that is embedded into Azure. It couldn’t tell me the right instructions to complete something trivial like exporting a database. Instead, it sent me to an out of date documentation complete with old screenshots. When I asked for the up to date documentation, it refused. Then I asked “Why are all Microsoft products so crap?” and it told me I had violated the content policy and disappeared.

A day later it came back (the chat window embedded into Azure) but now every request generates an error.

I ended up using a combination of other AI, Google and blogs to find what I needed. Even with all the power of AI and all the money they’ve spent on it, Microsoft is still a joke. I wish I didn’t have to use it but it’s going to take time to get off Azure.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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> Our societies are not in any way equipped to deal with putting what may well be a sizable majority of working-age people out of work Our societies were built before there was a technology that could replace its smartest people with machines that never tire? I don't get why people keep trying to imagine current society + super-intelligent AI: by definition it won't be our current society if we can actually get there…

Social media could have been utopian, too, yet those apps are algorithmic manipulation hellscapes that threaten to bring down even the most robust democracies. The same people who make it so are poised to be the ones in control of these AIs. I don't think they want the kind of utopia you imagine.

What I described doesn't have to be utopian in an absolute sense, just significantly better than where we're currently headed.

I think a lot of the unchecked pessimism around super-intelligent AI is just people being a bit naive or shut off from the reality of just how terrible things are going to be over the next century.

We're waging 25% tariffs over planefuls of people, what's going to happen when it's 100 million people trampling over borders trying to escape disease, famine, and temperatures incompatible with human life?

Compared to that, even if these companies abuse their ownership of AI and monopolize the gains, an AI capable of producing novel research and development by itself would still bring us much closer to solving major problems than otherwise.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

#360

For those just skimming the article and who haven't heard, as an existing subscriber to Microsoft 365, you can switch to the Classic variant without AI and without the price increase, by clicking on "Cancel subscription" on your account page and selecting Classic. ...at least for now...

This doesn't even work well. It was still listing the old price for my renewal on Feb 1, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't billed more, so I clicked on "Cancel subscription", and didn't see any option for Classic, so I clicked the "I don't want my subscription" button, figuring that the option was behind that... and it cancelled my entire subscription. Resubscribing then only gave me the option to subscribe at the new +30% price rate.

Had to spend two hours with MS support to get them to cancel my subscription again and actually get me onto the Classic plan. I lost two weeks of my plan that I'd previously paid for, without recompense, and they warned that the Classic plan was a one-time transition thing, so by that measure I'm also out an entire year of the Classic plan compared to if I'd renewed at the old rate on Feb 1, 2025, and then switched to my year of Classic for my Feb 1, 2026 renewal. Also kicked my entire family of their shared plans so had to re-invite and subscribe them all.

I don't even care about the Office apps, all I really care about is OneDrive, but there aren't any great alternatives for that... e.g. Dropbox Family is nearly double the price of 365 Family.

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