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The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Is there a single big company out there that sanely has not decided to ride this "AI" wave? People being pushed stupid features that no one has ever needed nor asked for? It's Clippy's revenge and you can't get rid of it this time? Microsoft really deserves ton of prizes for ruining so many products.

Not large compared to Microsoft and Amazon, but Nintendo:

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2024/09/legendary-mario-creat...

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Is this the absolute death of the high school essay? Even if you didn't want to cheat by avoiding ChatGPT, AI is now right there, in your word processor, and you have no way of turning it off.

The death of the high school essay will be when people realize best learning is done on the job and we get rid of highschools altogether.

They won't get that far because the kids with more education will get the job.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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So much this, when you see Zuck or even Jensen Huang saying "software engineers won't be needed anymore" and being excited about it you get pissed off as a software engineer lol. I feel like Microsoft's whole thing with Windows 11 has been "just force the users to do what we want them to do, we know better than they do" so it doesn't surprise me that 365 went the same way. I'm saying this and I'm a person that's usua…

> why such a rush? OpenAI alone spent $20G plus some unknown value to make the first version of it we have now. They and all the others need to justify the investment.

Pretty impressive, only $20 grand?

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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So much this, when you see Zuck or even Jensen Huang saying "software engineers won't be needed anymore" and being excited about it you get pissed off as a software engineer lol. I feel like Microsoft's whole thing with Windows 11 has been "just force the users to do what we want them to do, we know better than they do" so it doesn't surprise me that 365 went the same way. I'm saying this and I'm a person that's usua…

>I feel like Microsoft's whole thing with Windows 11 has been "just force the users to do what we want them to do, we know better than they do" My biggest gripe about Win11 is they stole from us the ability to move the task bar. It can ONLY be pinned to the bottom of the screen now. For the longest time, I was a top of the screen taskbar user. From what I've read, they have no plans to implement or change this "featu…

That and the fact that it will brick my $600 HP Reverb G2 headset are two reasons that I will never ever “upgrade” to Win11.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Yep. I've been an Xbox player since 2002. Huge Halo fan. Thousands of hours on 3 different generations of Xbox. I still have my Halo 3 special edition helmet. I keep up with gaming news and listen to multiple gaming podcasts every week. But even I can't reliably name the last two generations of Xbox without a pause. I always have to stop for a second and think it thru because the naming scheme is so abysmal.

It gets worse. Did you see this ad? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYBSNQLsBKk

Looking at the market, I think we can all agree where Microsoft is heading:

The XBOX COPILOT, the new handheld PC powered by AI!

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So much this, when you see Zuck or even Jensen Huang saying "software engineers won't be needed anymore" and being excited about it you get pissed off as a software engineer lol. I feel like Microsoft's whole thing with Windows 11 has been "just force the users to do what we want them to do, we know better than they do" so it doesn't surprise me that 365 went the same way. I'm saying this and I'm a person that's usua…

> you get pissed off as a software engineer lol I think this part depends on the person. I've personally been programming since I was a kid making games for my TI-83+, and in all that time and fatigue have been the limiting factors in how much of what I wanted to build that I actually could build. So something able to write code rigorously enough to replace SWEs would be an absolute dream! I love programming with all…

I would guess that the pushback is more about the possible economic imbalance that will happen and less about being replaced on the actual effort of coding.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Worse than CoPilot is the new Notepad. Can close the program without saving the file, open it again and it is still there! WTF?

Even more basic than that, it has some bizarre behavior regarding selections: pressing Shift+End selects to the end of line including the EOL, such that pressing Backspace will then splice the line. No other text editor I've used does this, and it's annoying.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So much this, when you see Zuck or even Jensen Huang saying "software engineers won't be needed anymore" and being excited about it you get pissed off as a software engineer lol. I feel like Microsoft's whole thing with Windows 11 has been "just force the users to do what we want them to do, we know better than they do" so it doesn't surprise me that 365 went the same way. I'm saying this and I'm a person that's usua…

> you get pissed off as a software engineer lol I think this part depends on the person. I've personally been programming since I was a kid making games for my TI-83+, and in all that time and fatigue have been the limiting factors in how much of what I wanted to build that I actually could build. So something able to write code rigorously enough to replace SWEs would be an absolute dream! I love programming with all…

That researcher probably wouldn't have an army of SWEs at his or her disposal but be out of a job like the SWEs. If they get AI to a point where it can be a safe and competent senior SWE, it'll be able to fill a huge breadth of other roles as well. Human creativity isn't looking like quite the moat it was supposed to be.

Our societies are not in any way equipped to deal with putting what may well be a sizable majority of working-age people out of work, possibly for good, nor are we in any way ready for the kind of power certain tech billionaires would have if their workforce were to scale with just the amount of hardware they own.

At this point I kind of hope the current breed of AIs will plateau quickly and stay there for a while so that maybe society can catch up instead of getting surprise bulldozed by a gaggle of tech giants.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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The crazy part to me is that, with a family subscription, the new AI privileges are only available to the primary account holder and not the rest of my family. That’s nuts. > For Microsoft 365 Family subscribers, Copilot will be available to the subscription owner and cannot be shared with others. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/blog/2025/01/1...

For some people, having no AI is a feature.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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post #317

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>I feel like Microsoft's whole thing with Windows 11 has been "just force the users to do what we want them to do, we know better than they do" My biggest gripe about Win11 is they stole from us the ability to move the task bar. It can ONLY be pinned to the bottom of the screen now. For the longest time, I was a top of the screen taskbar user. From what I've read, they have no plans to implement or change this "featu…

That and the fact that it will brick my $600 HP Reverb G2 headset are two reasons that I will never ever “upgrade” to Win11.

Microsoft not the only one.Mac OS upgrades effectively brick their own hardware. I’ve got a beautiful 27 inch iMac with a retina screen 5k … unusable now on last 2 OS updates.
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