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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by giantg2 »

SideQuark wrote: post #184
giantg2 wrote: post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"There has been one so far in 2025."

Read the data. There are many more latent cases recorded, and current new cases are not all recorded as the tally lags people sick right now. You keep quoting that part and ignoring the rest of the article and the live data sources linked to it. The text of the article likely wasn’t from yesterday, as the reporter likely went around a week or two, gathered quotes, interviews, then spent some time in editorial revisio…

Maybe you can link to whatever data you're looking at. The article says one new active case and that the overall number of cases, including latent, are trending down. This is still consistent with this being a bigger deal last year than this year. The KS health data still shows 1 active for this year.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by behringer »

tbrownaw wrote: post #171
behringer wrote: post #73

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The majority of people don't want this. 36 percent of americans didn't vote. That doesn't mean they don't want services, that means that in addition to 74 million that voted against trump, 90 million more also didn't want him.

No, it means that over a third of people DGAF. They neither do want it nor don't want it. (It's like NULL values in SQL, only much worse because it's in real life.)

Doesn't matter the reason. The fact is, if they wanted trump, they would have voted for him.

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Post by [deleted] »

wat10000 wrote: post #191
lenerdenator wrote: post #83

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I'm going to guess that the rationale is a combination of: 1) state's rights 2) anti-science 3) a number of people in the administration (very possibly including Trump himself) thinking that the CDC is an example of "the deep state" that conspired to keep him from winning in 2020 But, hey, Joe made groceries more expensive and the administration didn't kiss enough rear on the left side of the Dems to get Kamala elect…

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Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by behringer »

khazhoux wrote: post #154
behringer wrote: post #73

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The majority of people don't want this. 36 percent of americans didn't vote. That doesn't mean they don't want services, that means that in addition to 74 million that voted against trump, 90 million more also didn't want him.

Nope, those people don't count. You may as well point out that 89.7M dogs didn't vote for Trump. The majority of people wanted this.

They absolutely count. The fact that you don't think so, says more about you than about them.

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by blackeyeblitzar »

hedora wrote: post #81
johnnyanmac wrote: post #5

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How is it that Trump is so timely at cutting medical resources right before the moment it is most needed? Or perhaps such outbreaks are more common than you'd expect and it's the equivalent of leaving a firewall down for a day? And yeah, I'm aware a bigger factor in this freeze was hiding the very obvious Bird Flu pandemic. Can't hide the eggs getting more expensive though.

Cutting resources often is the root cause for an outbreak. - SARSv2 (aka Covid-19) happened after Trump disbanded the team that contained SARSv1. - During COVID, the west suspended polio vaccination programs in developing regions, so now polio outbreaks are a thing again. - Antivaxxers in NYC caused a massive measles outbreak a few years ago. Etc, etc.

The team that contained SARSv1? No one contained it successfully. In fact, there were many lab leaks of it. The outbreak itself was stopped by basic measures like masks and screening. But it also was far less infectious than SARSv2.

Blaming Trump for COVID-19 makes no sense for other reasons too. There are so many other people to blame first. Fauci for funding GoF research at WIV through EHA. The CCP for being secretive and denying there was an outbreak for a while and not allowing investigations in Wuhan for over a year. The WHO for repeating CCP propaganda like claiming there was no human to human transmission roughly fourth months after the first scientists fell ill at WIV. Do you remember Pelosi and democrats downplaying the pandemic and accusing those who wanted to close borders of racism? She apparently had no regrets about all that:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-no-regrets-initial-c...

With all of this how can blame be placed on Trump? If anything his Operation Warp Speed program bailed out the planet from pandemic (with great work from vaccine manufacturers of course).

Re: Kansas tuberculosis outbreak is America's largest recorded since the 1950s

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Post by enkid »

llamaimperative wrote: post #138
giantg2 wrote: post #111

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Wouldn't this have showed up in the reports last year when the numbers were actively happening? There's been 1 case this year it says. If the ideology was what you're saying, then wouldn't they want to spread the info and blame it on the "dirty illegals" or whatever?

This isn't really an urgent "alert" system per se, more of a knowledge dissemination system. Security postmortems more so than critical security patches. We have good reason to believe it'd show up here given that Kansas's TB situation has had multiple bulletins over the years https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/72/wr/mm7235a4.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/ss/ss7304a1.htm

The analogy breaks down in that rate of infection of a disease is historical but very much informs ongoing public health measures that should be taken.

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Post by [deleted] »

LarsKrimi wrote: post #160

Fun historical incident, but the "Spanish Flu" was traced back to Fort Riley Kansas. I think some people highlight a specific pig farm even. Now, the CDC do not list any infections of H1N5 in Kansas yet, but... Worth looking out for in anticipation maybe? Is there any reason why Kansas would be different than other states in particular?

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Post by throwup238 »

llamaimperative wrote: post #45
johnnyanmac wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is it that Trump is so timely at cutting medical resources right before the moment it is most needed? Or perhaps such outbreaks are more common than you'd expect and it's the equivalent of leaving a firewall down for a day? And yeah, I'm aware a bigger factor in this freeze was hiding the very obvious Bird Flu pandemic. Can't hide the eggs getting more expensive though.

> Or perhaps such outbreaks are more common than you'd expect and it's the equivalent of leaving a firewall down for a day? I think this + bad luck, really.

Luck is the intersection of preparation and opportunity. In this case lots of opportunity and zero preparation.

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Post by blackeyeblitzar »

zzzeek wrote: post #186
School-Cotton wrote: post #148

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Covid was spreading in many countries before the US. Off the top of my head I remember China, Korea, Italy and Spain. And no country of significant size avoided it, regardless of whether they were led by Trump or not.

The US pandemic response team that Trump fired included a significant presence working onsite in China https://www.reuters.com/article/world/exclusive-us-slashed-c...

I hit the paywall. But if this is about the same thing I’m thinking of, one reason to be careful about the work China’s CDC was doing (at times with visiting staff from the US) is they were one (among many) source of lab leaks of SARSv1:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7096887/

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Post by Dalewyn »

lynndotpy wrote: post #71
Waterluvian wrote: post #66

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I wonder if we’d do better in discourse to stop pointing at an “administration.” It is a reflection of what a plurality, often majority, of people want.

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>I think it's fair to say a lot of Trump's apologists and defenders really did not understand the ramifications of his first presidency, and are not in a position to clearly anticipate the ramifications of his second presidency.

Speaking as one Trump voter among many others, I knew exactly what he accomplished in his first term and what a hypothetical second term could look like. I also understood what his campaign platform and promises were and by and large I support them, including significantly reducing the federal government overall across the board.

What we are seeing now with January 6 and pro-life pardons among other pardons, the new United States DOGE Service, exits from Paris Agreement and WHO, mass deportations of illegal aliens and securing of the southern border, tariffs on imports and especially on countries who aren't amicable, removal of DEI and other equity-based programmes from the federal government with extreme prejudice, among many many other policies and mandates are all things I expected and wanted to see when I voted for Trump.

No doubt there are voters who voted Trump simply along party lines or other reasons, but just as much are voters who gave the election some thought and voted Trump.

If you don't agree with me then that's unfortunate, but my vote isn't yours.

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