It is a shame this was flagged. This is a conversation that is needed. Culling all political discussion is not what today's hackers need.
I came here to write this will get flagged, and I was already too late. We need a new "HackerNews"
Mark Zuckerberg: This Man Is a Coward
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#52Good recent Search Engine podcast episode on zuck and his changes over the years:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/3Pvsvk6fGJa1BqnPGsske9?si=g...
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#53It has been extremely instructive to watch the worlds richest people line up to kiss the ring of the new administration. I hope people remember this in the future when they talk about the rich controlling our government and the population being just along for the ride.
As a European observer, it's been an interesting lesson in how much power and sway the US presidency is invested with, despite ostensibly existing in a system that is less centralized and puts more power (and elected offices) at the state level than our flavor of democracies. You may not be able to bend the will of state officials, but if you can bend the will of national-level companies this easily, "the Feds" are e…
There’s always been disgusting amounts of money involved with US presidential elections. Its just never been so blatant.
Their whole system is not really geared towards a fair election. Gerrymandering, millions of dollars in political donations, optional voting and you don’t need to give time to employees to vote, voting system specifically designed to maintain a duopoly.
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#55I find it shocking how many otherwise intelligent people drank the kool-aid and believed that businesses have some mission bigger than making money, and salesmen tell the truth rather than whatever almost-lie gets the deal done. On top of that, it is very amusing to see people throw tantrums over being reminded that there exists a world and culture outside of their own bubble. The ignorance of California's upper-middle-class just couldn't last forever, and it had to come crashing down at some point.
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#56It is a shame this was flagged. This is a conversation that is needed. Culling all political discussion is not what today's hackers need.
It's not surprising when you consider HN is full of temporarily embarrassed tech billionaires
No one should be ashamed of being rich.
What grates me is that these people have ginormous amounts of FU money and don’t exercise it. They just horde it and be more sociopathic.
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#57It has been extremely instructive to watch the worlds richest people line up to kiss the ring of the new administration. I hope people remember this in the future when they talk about the rich controlling our government and the population being just along for the ride.
> It has been extremely instructive to watch the worlds richest people line up to kiss the ring of the new administration.
Definitely instructive, but I think also important is how it recharacterizes the past. We should not assume that "kissing the ring" is new starting with this administration. Instead, it's probably fairer to conclude that rich successful tech companies will almost always adopt whatever stance they think will be most to their benefit. It's generally safer to presume that their actions are based on exigency rather than deeply held beliefs.
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#58Seems kind of a bit much. I don't know what mark's true beliefs are. For all i know maybe his actions are ernest. I feel we need more than this to subscribe him a coward. Someone doing something you disagree with, or even being straight up evil, is not the same thing as being a coward.
He did the exact opposite when it was trendy to do the opposite. Did his beliefs change so conveniently?
Maybe when it was trendy he heard some convincing arguments one way, and now that trends shifted, he was convinced to go to the other side.
Maybe he doesn't give a shit at all and is going with the flow.
None of this particulary feels like cowardice.
Honestly, y'all should stop caring what mark thinks and start caring about the average american. Trump isn't scary because a couple of billionaires are on his side. He's scary because a majority of americans are on his side.
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#59A poorly conceived and generic article. If he has a malignancy (if), it is greed not fear. And with that fact clear, the whole article makes no sense.
I missed the accusation of malignancy. Malignancy and cowardice will lead to the same outcome when courage is called for. And MZ is simply greedy and afraid of losing what he's got, which is four orders of magnitude (at least) more than basically everyone else involved.
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#60Perhaps the opposite is true: Maybe Zuck found the courage to stand up for what he's come to believe in as he's matured as a person and a leader. Maybe what we're seeing now is a Zuck thats willing to say No More. Its seems rational that what we're seeing is just exactly that and that he actively wishes to be aligned with the policies of the new administration as he sees merit in their approach and ideas.