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Brazil bans Sam Altman's tech firm Tools for Humanity from paying for iris scans

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Re: Brazil bans Sam Altman's tech firm Tools for Humanity from paying for iris scans

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Post by CTDOCodebases »

dom96 wrote: post #37

The sad thing is that this really does solve a problem that GenAI is creating. Sam Altman is selling the poison as well as the cure. I think we will eventually all need to join social networks that are guaranteed to be composed of real humans, and for that we'll need a way to prove someone is a real human. I think passports/government IDs are a good enough solution for this and we don't need to be scanning people's i…

> I think we will eventually all need to join social networks that are guaranteed to be composed of real humans, and for that we'll need a way to prove someone is a real human.

Why discriminate?

Re: Brazil bans Sam Altman's tech firm Tools for Humanity from paying for iris scans

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Post by JoshTko »

trhway wrote: post #30
hinkley wrote: post #23

I remember when Minority Report came out how many people got sucked in by the Tom Cruise and the Max von Sidow vibes, the Oscar-winning histrionics of the imperiled character, or the sexy special effects and completely missed the subtext around all of this. That everywhere you went, They knew who you are and what you do. I was shocked that people I talked to didn't notice that every vertical surface in the mall had a…

Well, the every wall is just for movie visuals. In reality it will be projected right onto your retina or, using neuralink, right into the visual cortex or may be even deeper than that.

Future "free" LLM models will recommend advertisers products

Re: Brazil bans Sam Altman's tech firm Tools for Humanity from paying for iris scans

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Post by rightbyte »

soneca wrote: post #35
adamsch wrote: post #24

I walked by one of these scanning offices in São Paulo a few weeks ago and it looked completely dystopian. Didn't have the impression that the people who showed up there were well informed on what they were signing up for

There is one near home. When I passed by I saw one man stopping a couple in the street and explaining if they couldn’t go inside and give him the money. Sort of like a beggar, but asking the couple to go inside, scan their iris then giving him the money (since it’s free money anyway). I am not sure how that would work in practice, since I just passing by. But they were paying USD50~60 , a significant amount to make t…

50USD? What could possibly be the value of those iris scans? I don't get it.

Re: Brazil bans Sam Altman's tech firm Tools for Humanity from paying for iris scans

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Post by franktankbank »

dom96 wrote: post #37

The sad thing is that this really does solve a problem that GenAI is creating. Sam Altman is selling the poison as well as the cure. I think we will eventually all need to join social networks that are guaranteed to be composed of real humans, and for that we'll need a way to prove someone is a real human. I think passports/government IDs are a good enough solution for this and we don't need to be scanning people's i…

How does scanning someone's eyeballs help anyway? It's not unique if its stolen. Then what?

Re: Brazil bans Sam Altman's tech firm Tools for Humanity from paying for iris scans

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Post by malfist »

CTDOCodebases wrote: post #41
dom96 wrote: post #37

The sad thing is that this really does solve a problem that GenAI is creating. Sam Altman is selling the poison as well as the cure. I think we will eventually all need to join social networks that are guaranteed to be composed of real humans, and for that we'll need a way to prove someone is a real human. I think passports/government IDs are a good enough solution for this and we don't need to be scanning people's i…

> I think we will eventually all need to join social networks that are guaranteed to be composed of real humans, and for that we'll need a way to prove someone is a real human. Why discriminate?

Because ai slop is not meaningful content

Re: Brazil bans Sam Altman's tech firm Tools for Humanity from paying for iris scans

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Post by defrost »

rightbyte wrote: post #44
soneca wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is one near home. When I passed by I saw one man stopping a couple in the street and explaining if they couldn’t go inside and give him the money. Sort of like a beggar, but asking the couple to go inside, scan their iris then giving him the money (since it’s free money anyway). I am not sure how that would work in practice, since I just passing by. But they were paying USD50~60 , a significant amount to make t…

50USD? What could possibly be the value of those iris scans? I don't get it.

The bulk collection contains patterns.

How much iris variation (within that population) exists, are there any repeats (or repeats below threshold), is there any correlation between (say) iris pattern categories and facial pattern categories, etc.

Someone may think these are useful questions and this may be the first of many such data collection actions about the globe.

Re: Brazil bans Sam Altman's tech firm Tools for Humanity from paying for iris scans

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Post by TZubiri »

malfist wrote: post #46
CTDOCodebases wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think we will eventually all need to join social networks that are guaranteed to be composed of real humans, and for that we'll need a way to prove someone is a real human. Why discriminate?

Because ai slop is not meaningful content

And it can easily outnumber.

I think ip blocks are good enough to identify a million ai accounts, no need to do eyeballs

Re: Brazil bans Sam Altman's tech firm Tools for Humanity from paying for iris scans

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Post by Arainach »

codr7 wrote: post #32
Arainach wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Others have called out how silly your comparison is, but Gates and Microsoft have contributed to plenty of local things. Bill and Melinda have given hundreds of millions to local universities [1], tens of millions to local schools [2], millions to local charities [3] and you'll find their names on the donor lists of plenty of local institutions (arts, etc.). You could have seen all of this with a single search for "B…

Now find anything on that list where they didn't get something they wanted in return. They're building a brand, this is marketing.

That is a ridiculously cynical take. You can build a brand for a lot cheaper than $300 million if that's your goal.

Re: Brazil bans Sam Altman's tech firm Tools for Humanity from paying for iris scans

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Post by theptip »

franktankbank wrote: post #45
dom96 wrote: post #37

The sad thing is that this really does solve a problem that GenAI is creating. Sam Altman is selling the poison as well as the cure. I think we will eventually all need to join social networks that are guaranteed to be composed of real humans, and for that we'll need a way to prove someone is a real human. I think passports/government IDs are a good enough solution for this and we don't need to be scanning people's i…

How does scanning someone's eyeballs help anyway? It's not unique if its stolen. Then what?

The plan with Worldcoin is to use these unique IDs to airdrop a UBI.
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