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The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by albert_e »

alok-g wrote: post #201
safgasCVS wrote: post #174

Cancelled immediately after getting the email. I bought a pair of Office 2024 Professional Plus from a key reseller for £20 each for myself and my wife within the hour

>> Office 2024 Professional Plus from a key reseller for £20 Is this key authentic? Which reseller is this?

What is a good way to check to ensure we are not being handed a key that will get revoked

Even in our markets, we have office licenses available on Amazon for all prices ...the cheapest ones looking very suspect but not so sure about the ones that cost a decent amount.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by grugagag »

65 wrote: post #224

Does this allow Micro$oft to train their AIs on your word documents?

Ai is new and this justified them to move fast and break things, including user privacy. The amount of money they target to make minus the slap on the wrist will still be a monumental profit. Then they'll try to clean up house and play PR theater.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by mistrial9 »

jay_kyburz wrote: post #149
infecto wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The MacOS copilot implementation is horrid. Takes up a significant amount of screen space just to offer a summary of the email. Cannot turn off. For whatever reason cannot be a simple button with pop up on click. It’s horrid.

I can't think of an email I have ever received that needed to be summarized? Who is writing these super long emails?

the point is obviously for the AI thing to read your emails -- they are not asking you

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by WaltPurvis »

richm44 wrote: post #47
WaltPurvis wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can turn it off. Go to preferences -> Copilot and uncheck the Enable Copilot checkbox.

As the article explains, that's not been implemented on Mac yet.

Well, I'm on a Mac and it 100% has been implemented for me -- I tried to figure out how to turn it off as soon as I first saw it, went to preferences, found the checkbox. I didn't realize that hasn't been rolled out to everybody.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by dylan604 »

dartharva wrote: post #104
munchler wrote: post #6

My problem with this isn't the price increase. It's the blurring of what used to be a clearly understandable suite of products (e.g. Office) and services (e.g. OneDrive) into a soup of weird AI and cloud stuff that all goes under a single unhelpful name (Copilot). My mental model of what I'm actually purchasing is broken in this new paradigm.

Please, never in its history has anything from Microsoft been "clearly understandable".

Notepad is quite simple

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by thombat »

sunaookami wrote: post #166
xyst wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reminds me of a very old e-mail from bill gates to his direct reports about the poor usability of windows (xp?)

This one? https://www.techemails.com/p/bill-gates-tries-to-install-mov...

Slash-Dot chortled at that mail but I yearned to work for a software company where the CEO would spend their after-hours time actually eating some dog food & providing feedback (at the time I worked for a mobile phone company and all the mails from the C-suite to the world at large ended with "sent from my (competitor device)" because they preferred to use them and seemingly didn't care to drive improvements to their own products.)

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Post by manchmalscott »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #49
for_i_in_range wrote: post #8

Hate that if you use Word for Mac, you now have Copilot next to your cursor with no way of turning it off. I just want to use Word. I like its print layout features better than Pages. I don't want to switch. Just let me write and leave me alone. Now they're jamming AI down my throat without any opt-out mechanism.

If you throw word behind a firewall with something like little snitch, does copilot disappear? There is probably zero reason word, excel, or powerpoint should need to connect to the internet.

IIRC, excel’s ability to run Python is entirely cloud based, even in the desktop apps. There is, of course, probably zero reason why that would need to be the case either :/

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by throwup238 »

munchler wrote: post #15
jeremyjh wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was all part of Microsoft 365 already; Copilot just adds the AI slop.

Yes, and I was already struggling to understand what Microsoft 365 actually meant. Adding AI and renaming it all to Copilot is the straw that breaks the camel's back.

Microsoft 365 = Word documents without absolute positioning.

I tried it once to make a lost cat poster and ended up just using Krita.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by Angostura »

for_i_in_range wrote: post #8

Hate that if you use Word for Mac, you now have Copilot next to your cursor with no way of turning it off. I just want to use Word. I like its print layout features better than Pages. I don't want to switch. Just let me write and leave me alone. Now they're jamming AI down my throat without any opt-out mechanism.

delighted that Office 2019 still seems to work OK
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