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Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

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Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

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Post by josephernest »

satvikpendem wrote: post #24
josephernest wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I disagree. Ok, a non-commercial Creative Common license is not "OSI-open source" or "FSF-open source", but it is technically "open source". The source is open. The open source societal movement is much broader than the narrow definition given by OSI or FSF. OP, your tool is perfectly fine with a non-commercial creative common license. The fact that CC licenses are not specific for software does not imply it is a bad…

Then say source available, not open source, because the latter connotes the freedoms as mentioned in the OSI definition, for most people who use that phrase.

Open source is not trademarked by FSF or OSI. I think it is ok to call it open source since the source is open.

Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

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Post by satvikpendem »

josephernest wrote: post #51
satvikpendem wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then say source available, not open source, because the latter connotes the freedoms as mentioned in the OSI definition, for most people who use that phrase.

Open source is not trademarked by FSF or OSI. I think it is ok to call it open source since the source is open.

Let's not redefine words based on what you personally think is correct when people en masse have been using them to mean a certain specific concept. It does not have to be trademarked, it can have a de facto meaning that everyone generally understands to be what it means.

Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

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Post by emacsen »

josephernest wrote: post #50
emacsen wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It's not recognized as Open Source by the Open Source body, and doesn't meet the criteria of Free/Open Source Software, but is Open Source" is a bit like saying "I used GMO and petroleum based pesticides, but my produce is all organic."

But here the source is open! Why should we restrict the meaning of Opel Source, a societal mouvement since decades, to a list of criteria that FSF or OSI decided? Open source is not a trade mark by FSF or OSI. OP did not say it is free/libre software, but just open source, which it is. We don't need "source available", just open source is correct. PS: can you define the open source body in your previous comment?

Why should words like "organic" in relation to food mean without pesticides? I mean all carbon and water based life forms are organic, right?

I can define Open Source easily, using the OSI definition.

There is not a trademark for Open Source because they failed to secure the trademark, but we have decades of use for the term meaning something specific.

Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

#55

Post by ctippett »

dkmar wrote: post #45

Nice start. There's definitely room for a good native macOS chat client, I have tried a few now and none feel perfect. I found two that feel usable: HuggingChat ( https://github.com/huggingface/chat-macOS ) It has a launcher interface in the current release, and code, latex, etc are pretty printed. You can switch from HF hosted models to local mlx ones (though those are hardcoded rn i think). I like it for quick quer…

I've had a generally positive experience with MindMac[1], which is another native macOS app. I've raised a few issues and feature requests and the developer has been pretty responsive to feedback.

[1] https://mindmac.app/

Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

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Post by telenardo »

sarp wrote: post #39

Congratulations on the launch Tim, love the CMD + 0 shortcut and local model support. It's definitely something I'd use! Bug report: cmd + 8 is behaving weird on my laptop, maximizing and minimizing several times (Mac OS Sonoma 14.5). Happy to provide more details! Also, I'd expect pressing cmd + 0 to act like a toggle, to close it if it's already open (instead of needing to press escape), but maybe that's just me! L…

Sarp! Good to hear from you! I hope life has been good since the Instagram days. Yes, I've noticed the multi-resizing issue with cmd + 8 - I'll look into it this week. Regarding the cmd + 0 toggle, I think I can probably make that work too. We can set it up so you can set your dismiss shortcut. Then, you can choose the same as the launch shortcut, making it a toggle. I'll also take a look at that this week.

Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

#57

Post by telenardo »

notpushkin wrote: post #47
sarp wrote: post #39

Congratulations on the launch Tim, love the CMD + 0 shortcut and local model support. It's definitely something I'd use! Bug report: cmd + 8 is behaving weird on my laptop, maximizing and minimizing several times (Mac OS Sonoma 14.5). Happy to provide more details! Also, I'd expect pressing cmd + 0 to act like a toggle, to close it if it's already open (instead of needing to press escape), but maybe that's just me! L…

Oh no, ⌘+0 is so useful for resetting zoom level. Glad it’s (apparently) possible to change it!

It's hard to find unoccupied shortcuts these days! I don't use shortcuts on the numbers often, so I set that as a default. But yes, it's easily configurable in settings so you can choose something that works for your workflows.

Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

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Post by telenardo »

airstrike wrote: post #5

This is all a bit tangential, and I understand the gif is meant to be illustrative, but I think it reinforces the view that things like "summarize document" are good prompts. People really need to learn to be more detailed when telling AI assistants what to do because they benefit from context. Saying just "summarize document" or "what does this code do" with no context is going to lead to subpar results. It would be…

I would agree!

Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

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Post by telenardo »

telenardo wrote: post #58
airstrike wrote: post #5

This is all a bit tangential, and I understand the gif is meant to be illustrative, but I think it reinforces the view that things like "summarize document" are good prompts. People really need to learn to be more detailed when telling AI assistants what to do because they benefit from context. Saying just "summarize document" or "what does this code do" with no context is going to lead to subpar results. It would be…

I would agree!

(that this is all a bit tangential)
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