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The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by ethbr1 »

infecto wrote: post #106
for_i_in_range wrote: post #8

Hate that if you use Word for Mac, you now have Copilot next to your cursor with no way of turning it off. I just want to use Word. I like its print layout features better than Pages. I don't want to switch. Just let me write and leave me alone. Now they're jamming AI down my throat without any opt-out mechanism.

The MacOS copilot implementation is horrid. Takes up a significant amount of screen space just to offer a summary of the email. Cannot turn off. For whatever reason cannot be a simple button with pop up on click. It’s horrid.

> Takes up a significant amount of screen space just to offer a summary of the email. Cannot turn off. For whatever reason cannot be a simple button with pop up on click.

Because someone had 'Achieve Copilot feature adoption and utilization > 80%' on their VP level OKRs?

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by k8sToGo »

jay_kyburz wrote: post #149
infecto wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The MacOS copilot implementation is horrid. Takes up a significant amount of screen space just to offer a summary of the email. Cannot turn off. For whatever reason cannot be a simple button with pop up on click. It’s horrid.

I can't think of an email I have ever received that needed to be summarized? Who is writing these super long emails?

Have you never seen how AI makes texts super long? That needs to be summarized again by the receiver!

Like a reverse compression.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by k8sToGo »

Yeul wrote: post #151
hedora wrote: post #117

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It switched from being a software company to a cloud provider about 10 years ago. Things like Azure, LinkedIn and GitHub are where the focus is, since they have recurring revenue and also help them build their surveillance apparatus. Windows and Office are legacy monopoly products, so all you’re going to see from those divisions are price hikes and more mandatory surveillance. Edit: VS Code is an interesting play. It…

Well there is only so much you can do with Word and Outlook. Let's be real the difference between Office 2024 and Office 2019 are largely cosmetic. That stuff stopped being exciting a long time ago.

What about the super exciting new Teams and Outlook!

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by hcurtiss »

The crazy part to me is that, with a family subscription, the new AI privileges are only available to the primary account holder and not the rest of my family. That’s nuts.

> For Microsoft 365 Family subscribers, Copilot will be available to the subscription owner and cannot be shared with others.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-365/blog/2025/01/1...

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by righthand »

kstrauser wrote: post #177
righthand wrote: post #170

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For someone who wants that I’d recommend LibreOffice as it does all of that as well.

Just not as natively, quickly, or ergonomically.

No idea how that’s true, there is nothing Pages does differently when it comes to opening a file and “just writing” that LibreOffice doesn’t do. If you honestly get hung up that LibreOffice doesn’t look like it was developed by Apple within the last 5 years then you are always being disingenuous when comparing the software in the first place.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by liendolucas »

Is there a single big company out there that sanely has not decided to ride this "AI" wave? People being pushed stupid features that no one has ever needed nor asked for? It's Clippy's revenge and you can't get rid of it this time? Microsoft really deserves ton of prizes for ruining so many products.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by riffraff »

liendolucas wrote: post #197

Is there a single big company out there that sanely has not decided to ride this "AI" wave? People being pushed stupid features that no one has ever needed nor asked for? It's Clippy's revenge and you can't get rid of it this time? Microsoft really deserves ton of prizes for ruining so many products.

amazon? I mean they have some data center stuff, but amazon-the-website does not seem infected with artificial idiocy yet.

Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by ycgl20020202 »

kstrauser wrote: post #80
righthand wrote: post #59

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You can just write with LibreOffice. Your example of special acceleration for Apple made software is unfounded.

I happily used LibreOffice for years, and got a small businesses off Word in favor of it (well, OOo at the time). I’m a fan. But Pages is much more ergonomic, lightweight, and native on a Mac. There’s not a likely scenario where I’d use LibreOffice over Pages.

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Re: The Microsoft 365 Copilot launch was a disaster

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Post by dijit »

righthand wrote: post #196
kstrauser wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just not as natively, quickly, or ergonomically.

No idea how that’s true, there is nothing Pages does differently when it comes to opening a file and “just writing” that LibreOffice doesn’t do. If you honestly get hung up that LibreOffice doesn’t look like it was developed by Apple within the last 5 years then you are always being disingenuous when comparing the software in the first place.

This uh... "discussion".. would make an excellent blog post, comparing Pages/Word and LibreOffice on a mac, based on merits such as:

* Install UX (how difficult, what pop-ups).

* First time user experience.

* Launch speed.

* Consistency with OS (such as using native file dialogs, hotkeys).

* Export Options (perhaps compatibility too).

* Spellchecker (especially if the OS is configured in another language than US english and the processor can detect it).

* Input latency.

I wonder if there would be more, though of this list I think LibreOffice would do very fairly compared to Pages.app and MS Word for Mac.

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