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Render raises $80M in Series C financing

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Re: Render raises $80M in Series C financing

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It also means that when an application reaches a certain maturity or complexity, they have to leave platforms like Render to clouds where they can do the things they need to operate with efficiency. There is a tradeoff point. Platforms like Render are small team efficient, clouds are organization efficient

A lot of apps never grow to that size, and can run on services like render or heroku forever, saving millions of dollars in devops cost (the most expensive part of devops is the devops engineer). A good number of companies out there move to google scale infrastructure and spin up whole devops teams when they would be fine without all that out of fear of having to move later. That later might never come.

A good devops engineer or team will pay for itself, so it becomes an asset rather than a liability. A certain amount of scale or complexity forms a baseline. I get consulting / contracting gigs for this very reason, granted what I do goes beyond just cloud infra & costs, devops/dx as a philosophy rather than a job title. It is valuable to an organization to have some(one|people) thinking about these problems from a global & holistic view

Re: Render raises $80M in Series C financing

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(I'm Render's founder) What should we build next, HN?

Honestly as a long term customer please polish what you have. By that I mean: - Teams are still the only proper way to segment environments and access control. Yet you charge team member, I am still mad about that because even after 1+ year we need to use multiple teams. - Metrics are still locked to your platform, I want to use my telemetry provider because you guys dont have alerts, dashboard creation, etc. - Contr…

I agree here. Render is nice now, not bloated.

Re: Render raises $80M in Series C financing

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(I'm Render's founder) What should we build next, HN?

Honestly as a long term customer please polish what you have. By that I mean: - Teams are still the only proper way to segment environments and access control. Yet you charge team member, I am still mad about that because even after 1+ year we need to use multiple teams. - Metrics are still locked to your platform, I want to use my telemetry provider because you guys dont have alerts, dashboard creation, etc. - Contr…

* You can now block private network traffic from crossing environment boundaries (https://render.com/docs/projects#blocking-cross-environment-...). We also just launched an invite-only feature that creates a high-level Organizational structure with multiple teams, where each team member is only charged once.

* Otel exports are in development and should be live in early access in a few weeks!

* Heard on subnet IPs

* There's ongoing work to remove a major Cloudflare dependency; it should also go live in a few weeks.

We'll keep polishing and pushing the envelope on control and flexibility. Thanks for being a vocal customer.

Re: Render raises $80M in Series C financing

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(I'm Render's founder) What should we build next, HN?

It’s probably low margin but it’d be nice to see object storage. We host almost everything on render, and use digital ocean for storing assets. It leaves a ton to be desired - I wish it had simple object versioning, backups, even a nicer search tool would be awesome.

Object storage is a major missing piece. Stay tuned.

Re: Render raises $80M in Series C financing

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> we’ve surpassed 2 million developers ... 100,000+ developers who sign up for Render every month

There's something like 2 million software engineers in the entire USA. There's no way their penetration is significant (>25%) in the USA, so where are these developers coming in from? India, China, LATAM?

Re: Render raises $80M in Series C financing

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Congratulations to the team at Render. I'm not a user but good to see some competition in the cloud space. DigitalOcean was the last great developer focused effort IMO. Things at a higher level helped various communities but nothing has really attempted to compete with cloud providers themselves. So good on you and keep going.

Cheers!

Re: Render raises $80M in Series C financing

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Honestly as a long term customer please polish what you have. By that I mean: - Teams are still the only proper way to segment environments and access control. Yet you charge team member, I am still mad about that because even after 1+ year we need to use multiple teams. - Metrics are still locked to your platform, I want to use my telemetry provider because you guys dont have alerts, dashboard creation, etc. - Contr…

* You can now block private network traffic from crossing environment boundaries ( https://render.com/docs/projects#blocking-cross-environment-... ). We also just launched an invite-only feature that creates a high-level Organizational structure with multiple teams, where each team member is only charged once. * Otel exports are in development and should be live in early access in a few weeks! * Heard on subnet IPs *…

Thanks for the reply. I never understood the appeal of the network traffic split since it didnt come with user access control. Not everybody in a team needs access to all environments and even within an environment not everybody needs access to every service and/or secrets of those services.

Couple of other things while I do have you:

- More control on the instance sizing similar to how you have us control of the postgres instances

- A proper write-only secrets system ala AWS Secret Manager. The current environment variables isn't passing an audit for sure if anybody on the team can log in and see them plaintext

Your support team is really good I do want to say, it is probably the one thing that kept me a customer.

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