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How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

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Re: How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

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I'm of the opinion that every 500k+ city should have a subway line. I grew up in a city with one (just one for the majority of my 20 years there) and if there's one thing I miss from that place it's the ability to move at an average speed of 35km/h at any time the trains were operating, especially at 2am on a Friday night after a couple of beers with the guys. The other thing I noticed when I was visiting my family t…

most us cities did have subways (or streetcars), then GM bought 'em all and shut them down. [0] [0] Taken for a Ride - The U.S. History of the Assault on Public Transport in the Last Century: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-I8GDklsN4&t=1590s

Did the US have any subways shut down? I know there are some metros like Cincinnati that abandoned an unfinished subway

Re: How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

#193

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Density yes, but more importantly 1) speed vs traveling by car, 2) starting and stopping in places people want to travel between, 3) safety, 4) real estate prices/regulation. Density goes to number 1 (more traffic = better reason to use the subway) and 2 (more likely to be able to serve people’s desired trip)

5) Weather. If it's under -20 C or over 40 C, walking five blocks is unpleasant for anyone and dangerous for some. Especially if the walk is unsheltered, which it typically is.

People do have to walk from their cars too (for any city I've been to)

Re: How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

#194

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I disagree. Trams are too slow. They are not good for long tracks, like sub ways.

And also they have much less capacity than mass transit systems like a subway, so they are bad for most commuters who tend to travel at rush hour[1]. I guess they are great in tourist areas though. [1] In my experience, at least in the cities where I have lived

Worse in the outskirts, but better in the town center if you can hop off every couple 100m without 2 escalators/staircases

Re: How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

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There's probably some truth in that. On the other hand, Concord is a pretty far-flung suburb; you're probably over 30 minutes to get to Cambridge without heavy traffic. I believe the prison out there is closed now but don't know what the plans are for the land.

Sure, I wouldn't imagine it'd turn into a cluster of skyscrapers if the restrictions were not there, but I would imagine there might be some small apartment buildings near the train station. New Jersey has had some impressive housing changes happen by opening areas near transit to development in not-dissimilar environments.

Apparently, the governor is interested in using it for housing development but I'm sure that will be tied up in the courts for years--especially with it being Concord.

Re: How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

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It also disincentivizes speculation, which is just a flurry of repeated transactions.

Spec can be loooooong term, even longer than natural person

Perfect is not the enemy of good.

Re: How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

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It does. New York's system is one of only a handful in the world that operates all (or nearly all) lines 24/7.

The level of redundancy in the NYC subway is marvelous. In most of the densest areas, you have 4-track lines and often other lines within a mile. It makes it possible to do maintenance while still offering 24/7 service.

If you have a 2-track line, you can close one of the tracks for maintenance on weekday nights when frequency doesn't need to be very high. That's how Copenhagen does it.

Re: How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

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this is cool but it would pe super interesting to see this adjusted for the ilterva\ timing betweenarrivals assumild i got to station rightafter each train left: all of the area difference is the questionable territory risky to ride from each station unless you have flexibility

Re: How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

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MTA runs express trains. They don't get up to 100mph, but they skip many local stops along the way. Raising their speed to 100mph would likely not meaningfully increase transit time - you'd maybe shave off a few minutes.

it boggles my mind that a place like new york doesn't have the money to just do that. Raising the speed limit gets more important the longer you travel and connects distant parts your city better. It's a recent trend to build high-speed lines to complement an existing, dense subway network (e.g. Paris goes up to 75 mph). I mean when were these built, a 100 years ago? Surely there's room for improvement.

Used to be 55mph, it was lowered to 40 tops after an accident in 1995, some places the limit is 15mph

"The Trains Are Slower Because They Slowed the Trains Down"

https://www.villagevoice.com/the-trains-are-slower-because-t...

Similarly there's a top speed of 79mph on the rest of the country on most passenger rail since the Naperville Train Disaster of 1946

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naperville_train_disaster

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