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It's not a crime if we do it with an app

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Re: It's not a crime if we do it with an app

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What was illegal about Neflix, YouTube, and Tesla at first?

Youtube came to fame because of sharing copyrighted material without permission of the copyright holders. Still does. With Tesla, I've no idea if there are laws preventing direct to customer selling, the "land of the free" has a lot of laws preventing freedom.

User-generated content platforms have had a very specific legal obligation around copyright for decades, which is that they must comply with DMCA takedowns.

Re: It's not a crime if we do it with an app

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Does anybody know whats stopping ethical and slightly less greedy companies from outcompeting these conglomerates? Its a question I keep coming back to because if the market were efficient then competitors should be able to use that same data to undercut big potato (or big whatever). This never seems to happen.

Re: It's not a crime if we do it with an app

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Maybe they should not exist at the first place. So I cant use my car to carry out people, without a permission. However, if I do it with uber, I suddenly can! More than this, I wonder if I can create a company to do taxi bussiness. I will buy 5 car, then rent out 5 more, do taxi bussiness… what makes uber so special, I wonder

Uber is not a great case for your argument. They made the world safer and enabled transportation for people who would otherwise not have it. No one, literally no one, who has spent any time in taxis wants to go back to them. I can't tell you the number of times I've had to call several companies to get a taxi to the airport have none arrive. Uber broke the ice and showed what was possible. There was literally no othe…

> Yes, they broke the law

How about I go into your house and break the laws around theft? I promise to do good things for society with your property. The ends justify the means, according to your argument.

Re: It's not a crime if we do it with an app

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but would Airbnb or Uber exist if they tried to get permission first? Netflix streaming was illegal at first. Youtube for sure. Napster. Tesla (no dealerships it was direct sales to consumers.) Even craigslist or ebay or the very first Ford Model T. They break rules because that's the only way to test the waters and see if the public wants the rule broken?

What rules did Craigslist, eBay or the Ford Model T break? Craigslist seems like a straightforward digital version of what newspapers and community boards were doing for a long time. eBay is just a digital version of an auction house. And the Model T was just a cheaper more widely available car compared to the cars that came before. None of them seem comparable to AirBnB (subverting hotel regulations by pretending to…

craigslist served as a prostitution and drug trafficking forum for most of its' popular existence.

ebay used to allow the sale of presription drugs, prescriptions themselves, body parts , animal cadavers , pirated software, and shipping of weapons to restricted global areas.

ebay was also an unreported tax-haven-ish thing for a few early years.

(ebay was great fun to browse around in the mid 90s.)

the production of the model T had some interesting quirks. When production ramped he essentially bought the entire workforce from certain regions and caused all sorts of social issues. He had his employees self-tattle on each other for 'moral standards'.

The model-t itself was also produced off a different patent that was held by someone else and ignored; it was fought for later and won by Ford in 1911.

Re: It's not a crime if we do it with an app

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What was illegal about Neflix, YouTube, and Tesla at first?

Youtube came to fame because of sharing copyrighted material without permission of the copyright holders. Still does. With Tesla, I've no idea if there are laws preventing direct to customer selling, the "land of the free" has a lot of laws preventing freedom.

Absolutely not. YouTube came to fame 100% because they made it easy for you to embed your own videos inside of a webpage. This was an incredibly difficult fear at the time that required specialized flash players, conversions, and what not. That’s why YouTube came to exist.

Re: It's not a crime if we do it with an app

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It appears that the crux of the article is that a lot of price fixing is going on through the use of programs that suggest or encourage pricing among a few players, to the advantage of all the players and the disadvantage of the customer. Crackdowns do take time in the US but there is hope. See e.g.: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-realp...

There is zero chance that this kind of Justice department actions will be continued in the current administration

Re: It's not a crime if we do it with an app

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More like "It's not a crime if a corporation does it." The US treats corporations with kid gloves. They get away with so much, and in those rare cases where a regulatory body does anything , it's often just a strongly worded letter, a warning, a threat to one day send a strongly worded letter, or, in really rare, extreme cases, a company official gets called in to say a few words in front of Congress. Nobody goes to…

This also happens in the EU, tho.
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