That is sad that you come for the posts and not the comments.
The problem is even in posts unrelated to the AI hype, someone will inevitably mention AI and somehow those threads always blow up to be the largest ones in any post.
Ask HN: Anyone else find LLM related posts causing them to lose interest in HN
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#82For me it's that it's all so obviously a grift. With crypto there was at least some legitimate value to blockchains. ML is a valid science and has led to major breakthroughs in other sciences. But AGI/genAI LLMs come across like just another scam from the Worst Guys You Know who were all cryptobros in the 2010s. The output integrity problems get dismissed. The traceability/repeatability problems get dismissed. The da…
It's infecting everything. The other day I overheard someone saying "we don't need to expose a query interface, we'll just give users a text box and let them use natural language". Total brain rot.
My PM has been talking about converting half our product into a "conversational UI", meaning what used to be buttons would be turned into a textbox that sends a request to an AI API that will in turn trigger the same action as before. Of course, it shits itself 80% of the time, but AI!!!11!
It's total lunacy, I feel like I'm in a mental asylum sometimes.
Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find LLM related posts causing them to lose interest in HN
#83no, i find this subject very interesting. the discussion could be a little more competent and practical.
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#84Yeah, it's really really boring. LLMs are not quite nothing, I believe they have some decent uses and will probably come to have more, but I find the breathless hype very depressing. Engineering (as that is what many software developers want to be called these days) should consist of sober judgements on the merits of the components you're evaluating, and this mostly isn't that. I've used LLMs enough to see for myself that they're impressive for certain jobs and more generally up to a point, but worse than useless after that.
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#85Honestly, LLM-related posts are usually a topic I’m more likely to click on, depending on the article. I find some of the discussions pretty interesting and useful, though I get why the saturation might feel like too much for others.
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#86OpenAI is valued at ~150 billion. Anthropic is valued at ~60 billion. nvidia was valued at $15/share in 2023 and is now valued at $150/share. It might seem that LLMs have sucked all the air out of the room, this is why. If you find LLMs boring, you are in for a very boring couple of decades - because it's not going away.
Impressive numbers, but have you ever tried to use one of these things to get actual work done? They're terrible at it! Until these companies start demonstrating some actual value this is merely a hype bubble. Nvidia is slightly different categorically because they're selling the picks and shovels in this hype gold rush--but they were also in the last one (web3/crypto/nfts). At some point if these folks don't actuall…
> Impressive numbers, but have you ever tried to use one of these things to get actual work done? They're terrible at it!
If you mean "have you tried using an LLM like ChatGPT or Claude for doing development work", then you're wrong.
I'm very confident in saying this, both because I personally use AI for programming and get a lot of value from it, and also because almost everyone else I know in real life also uses AI for programming.
But also because there are dozens/hundreds of accounts of very good developers getting a lot of value from AI in their work.
So at this point, insisting AI products are terrible doesn't say much about the AI products, so much as it says something about your ability to get value out of them.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
> covered a specific niche of overall software stuff (payment processing) At the time it was everything blockchain. Not just payments. Decentralized, smart contracts and the like.
It's true it did get pretty rediculous and somewhat collapsed (at least in public interest). I just don't see why every time we need to go through the incredible hype / death cycle. LLMs are a useful tool if used properly, I hope I start seeing them used to create distinct value.
"Replicants are either a benefit or a hazard."—Deckard
Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find LLM related posts causing them to lose interest in HN
#88Very meta post. ;) I need a filter on all web browsing so that I never hear about LLMs ever again. They're a scourge on critical thinking, on workers, on the environment, on the internet. If they are the future, leave me behind.
Maybe HN needs to fork (not like Wordpress, though...) into 3 sites:
1) Wordpress Original 2) Wordpress no AI/LLM/ML 3) Wordpress ONLY AI/LLM/ML
I would choose 2) in a heartbeat.
Re: Ask HN: Anyone else find LLM related posts causing them to lose interest in HN
#89If this is a poll, my answer is no. I enjoy the discussions around a lot of the HN LLM/AI especially. Most other places are to surface level.
same, this is the most interesting development of our time may be of humankind, and it's not that news is just repeating: there is significant progress almost every week (recently R1 and byte latent tokenization)
I would nominate recent surge in UAP developments as equally interesting. Perhaps they're not unrelated.
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#90I have been on HN for 16.5 years and I don’t plan to stop now. It’s been worse. Trends come and go. The stories and comments come and go. HN is constantly changing. You can’t attach yourself to how something was before. It will change again. Thats just life.
Agreed. I came here during the JS library hype fad when everyone was using query and waiting for the next best thing. JS libraries felt like 30% of all posts til they weren’t.
I can see how the AI posts can get overbearing if you are in the /new trenches. I’d recommend stepping back and just view the top post rss for a bit.