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Just my personal taste though; I don’t mean to knock LLMs.
Lol tell me about it. My problem isn't only that it's LLM, but the same 3-5 topics over and over and over and over again: > This is how I use ChatGPT to write my program. > Here is a cool SaaS that will generate a CV for you with state of the art AI > AGI is happening in 5 minutes! (If it wouldn't happen, read the previous statement again) > LLMs are going to kill/save humanity > Show HN: we worked on this revolution…
I think it's the most annoying one. We are spammed by Bootstrap/Tailwind-styled closed-source wrappers around the API currently hyped (with Google login, and pricing page, all the time).
We would be legitimately angry if we were flooded with "Here is some random ClosedSource.exe application, run it on your computer" because that would not improve anything, but for some reason web sites are OK.
It's the current hotness in tech. HN has always included trending tech topics. Ever since HN started, I've seen - * Explosion of social media * JavaScript libraries and the frontend revolution to modernizing the web and browsers * Mobile apps * Crypto * Machine Learning and now, AI & LLMs. The only difference LLMs have with the others is the learning curve. The others, one could easily hop on the trend. With LLMs, be…
Half the post about AI are telling us how good prompts should make me a 10x engineer, or I made this app in 5 minutes and I don't know how to code. At least for JS and, god forbid, crypto, there was some effort required.
Very meta post. ;) I need a filter on all web browsing so that I never hear about LLMs ever again. They're a scourge on critical thinking, on workers, on the environment, on the internet. If they are the future, leave me behind.
I wrote my own front end for HN using Flutter (just a pet project) specifically so I could have dark mode and a topic filter. But I just got tired of adding new AI topics to the filter.
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> For me the LLM topic is just all enveloping in a way the other trends haven't been. Same here, for sure. I just try to dodge it all as best I can. Seems like every question has the possible answer of LLMs, and nearly always, someone provides it.
There's also this annoying dissonance between 'evangelists' and reality. Evangelists often feign that we're on the cusp of artificial general intelligence, while in practice LLMs remain stupid, error prone, and unreliable for anything beyond tasks that have a vast number sources for highly relevant training. Which also somewhat dilutes the utility, because I could just as well find those sources! Oh right, that must…
The new problem is this only works when you can verify the answers.
Then you have people that drank the LLM kool-aid and their hyper-inflated expectations and how they will all be met within the year.
I am starting to simply ignore such threads altogether.
OpenAI is valued at ~150 billion. Anthropic is valued at ~60 billion. nvidia was valued at $15/share in 2023 and is now valued at $150/share. It might seem that LLMs have sucked all the air out of the room, this is why. If you find LLMs boring, you are in for a very boring couple of decades - because it's not going away.
Impressive numbers, but have you ever tried to use one of these things to get actual work done? They're terrible at it! Until these companies start demonstrating some actual value this is merely a hype bubble. Nvidia is slightly different categorically because they're selling the picks and shovels in this hype gold rush--but they were also in the last one (web3/crypto/nfts). At some point if these folks don't actuall…
Of course, once you actually try to use it for any real work that isn't a toy project with a trillion examples online, you very quickly run into the myriad of flaws. But they're not using it deeply like that, they're just interested in how they can cut costs or prop up their own product by wow-ing other managers with AI features even if they don't make a lick of sense from an end-user perspective.
This isn't even to say it's completely useless, just that the hype and marketing is so insanely divergent from the reality, it's shocking. For me, it's at best a 5% productivity boost for very specific tasks like formatting structured text or something like that, but I wouldn't say that justifies a 500 billion dollar investment...