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DeepSeek-R1 has apparently caused quite a shock wave in SV ... https://venturebeat.com/ai/why-everyone-in-ai-is-freaking-ou...
Correct me if I'm wrong but if Chinese can produce the same quality at %99 discount, then the supposed $500B investment is actually worth $5B. Isn't that the kind wrong investment that can break nations? Edit: Just to clarify, I don't imply that this is public money to be spent. It will commission $500B worth of human and material resources for 5 years that can be much more productive if used for something else - i.e…
You want to invest $500B to a high speed rail network which the Chinese could build for $50B?
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Great as long as you’re not interested in Tiananmen Square or the Uighurs.
american models have their own bugbears like around evolution and intellectual property
DeepSeek-R1 has apparently caused quite a shock wave in SV ... https://venturebeat.com/ai/why-everyone-in-ai-is-freaking-ou...
The models themselves seem very good based on other questions / tests I've run.
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That's right but the money is given to the people who do it for $500B and there are much better ones who can do it for $5B instead and if they end up getting $6B they will have a better model. What now?
I don't know how to answer this because these are arbitrary numbers. The money is not spent. Deepseek published their methodology, incumbents can pivot and build on it. No one knows what the optimal path is, but we know it will cost more. I can assure you that OpenAI won't continue to produce inferior models at 100x the cost.
What happens if that money is being actually spent, then some people constantly catch up but don't reveal that they are doing it for cheap? You think that it's a competition but what actually happening is that you bleed out of your resources at some point you can't continue but they can.
Like the star wars project that bankrupted the soviets.
Aside from the usual Tiananmen Square censorship, there's also some other propaganda baked-in: https://prnt.sc/HaSc4XZ89skA (from reddit)
Of course it produced censored responses. What I found interesting is that the (model thinking/reasoning) part of these answers was missing, as if it's designed to be skipped for these specific questions.
It's almost as if it's been programmed to answer these particular questions without any "wrongthink", or any thinking at all.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but if Chinese can produce the same quality at %99 discount, then the supposed $500B investment is actually worth $5B. Isn't that the kind wrong investment that can break nations? Edit: Just to clarify, I don't imply that this is public money to be spent. It will commission $500B worth of human and material resources for 5 years that can be much more productive if used for something else - i.e…
> i.e. high speed rail network instead You want to invest $500B to a high speed rail network which the Chinese could build for $50B?
I've been using https://chat.deepseek.com/ over My ChatGPT Pro subscription because being able to read the thinking in the way they present it is just much much easier to "debug" - also I can see when it's bending it's reply to something, often softening it or pandering to me - I can just say "I saw in your thinking you should give this type of reply, don't do that". If it stays free and gets better that's going to b…