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How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

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Re: How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

#52

It's crazy how dysfunctional the state structure can be - in any functioning country the subway would extend to NJ.

The PATH train does exactly that.

It would make much more sense for it to be unified with the MTA subway, with more connectivity. My dream would be a single seat ride from Newark Airport to Atlantic Terminal in Brooklyn, via Newark Penn Station and World Trade Center.

There was also once a proposal to have the 7 train go out to Seacaucus Junction, which would be huge for accessing the East Side for NJers.

Re: How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The PATH train does exactly that.

the PATH train is a lousy a replacement. Just look at the connectivity and coverage of NJ vs Queens & Brooklyn: https://stewartmader.com/wp-content/uploads/Subway-NY-NJ-sca...

That's a separate issue versus trains going to/from NYC. They do.

Re: How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

#54

Travel times would be much improved by a high speed line. Ie. a route with 4 stops and a travel speed of 100 mph. The finances of railways actually get better with faster trains - because the sooner you can get the person to their destination, the quicker you can get that train serving another passenger.

Are there any metros with intra-city high speed trains like this?

Re: How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The PATH train does exactly that.

the PATH train is a lousy a replacement. Just look at the connectivity and coverage of NJ vs Queens & Brooklyn: https://stewartmader.com/wp-content/uploads/Subway-NY-NJ-sca...

The Jersey side is so sad, for one of the country's most densely populated areas.

Re: How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

#56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The PATH train does exactly that.

It would make much more sense for it to be unified with the MTA subway, with more connectivity. My dream would be a single seat ride from Newark Airport to Atlantic Terminal in Brooklyn, via Newark Penn Station and World Trade Center. There was also once a proposal to have the 7 train go out to Seacaucus Junction, which would be huge for accessing the East Side for NJers.

I wonder if the real limit is tunnels. Connectivity doesn't fix the issue of physical limits on tunnel capacity and the massive cost of new tunnels.

Re: How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

#57

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I'm not convinced it'd pay for itself since maintenance still needs to be done so it's not really 6 minutes 24/7. The 7 train in theory runs on weekends and in theory runs fairly often. In practice it's down every other weekend for I think 5+ years now. The MTA does not have a good track record of timely maintenance and also seems to not care much about long term downtime (ie: like their original proposal for a 15 mo…

> The MTA does not have a good track record of timely maintenance A big part of that is because the MTA has been starved of funding for fifteen years now, to the point where they've had to substitute capital funds for operating funds in an effort to keep the lights on. Maintenance becomes more expensive when it's perpetually deferred - and it just became even more expensive because Hochul's inexplicable last-minute f…

Sure. My point is that cannot magically assume all of that will go away in the future when making forecasts on the impact of changes.

Re: How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

#58

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I've been meaning to try it out in NYC because it seems like that's one of few geos they playtested. It's super fun in other cities but you have to modify the rules and cards a bunch to make it work.

Re: How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

#59

Travel times would be much improved by a high speed line. Ie. a route with 4 stops and a travel speed of 100 mph. The finances of railways actually get better with faster trains - because the sooner you can get the person to their destination, the quicker you can get that train serving another passenger.

Some kind of Metro (that runs) North?

Re: How far can you get in 40 minutes from each subway station in NYC?

#60
Cool! Though the data must be a bit noisy as you get some oddities. For instance, if you select Astoria/Ditmars (last top, NW Queens) the Flushing/Main Street stop (last stop of purple -- go directly west on map from Astoria) is out of range. Click Flushing/Mains Street, though, and Astoria/Ditmars is in the 40 minute range.
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