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Re: French police free kidnapped Ledger executive

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I've been thinking for a while that the current security methodology for wallets is not great. YES, that statement is extremely obvious on the face of it. But, I mean, think of some of the basic measures people take. This hardware wallet crap, okay great, your keys are kept somewhere safe and there's offline signing, but so what? Boop the users head until they give up the wallet. H4xt funds. We should be able to designed a robust threat model for cryptoassets using smart contracts that resists many kinds of attacks (including kidnapping.) This is hacker news so I guess people will want details on how this might work.

I would probably start with how people use their money. If people have t funds, they usually aren't going to move it each day. So start with a fixed, daily spend limit. That's simple, to start with. Then past the spend limit, you might have extremely large, outlier transactions. This is an interesting phase because with actual non-shit-tier security you could have a secondary layer of confirmation. This could be based on different panic codes. Some could indicate that the transfer is being made under coercion and to notify law enforcement, some could indicate to accept the transfer and notify, and so on. You could outsource this to a third-party. Do you see what I mean? All this shit is easy to do with cryptography and actual good design. But no ones done it. I thought of this in the time it took to write this shitty post.

Provable deniability schemes can be done to make it look like a wallet only contains a certain amount, too, using various private transaction schemes. This is nothing new. These attacks of being forced to do reveal keys and so on are things cryptographers have thought of for a long time. It's why you had Truecrypt have the fake volume. There is other stuff you can add to the security scheme. Giving different persons a key and making them sign their portion. Co-signing by third-parties (already a thing -- the scheme I like best is keys.casa). Many different ideas to allow for funds to seem like they've been "sent" then allow for revocation later on. You could have all different enhancements to high value, anomalous transfers like forcing the incumbent of transfers to take longer and have a clearing phase and so on. I'm sure there are plenty of ways to improve it even further. Just some ideas for how to stop attacks like this.

Whenever I see headlines about hacked exchanges, hacked wallets, lots keys, broken transfers, etc... I just think that we're still at the stage where there's a fractal of shit and we have to do better. Make everything work flawlessly and without even thinking about it.

Re: French police free kidnapped Ledger executive

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I have a significant amount of crypto and use a ledger wallet. Recently I noticed that the ledger app on my phone requires precise location access to function. It just hit me that ledger has precise locations and wallet balances of all its customers. It's just a matter of time when this information falls in the hands of organized crime. I have since then moved to another wallet and am thinking of selling my house and…

> the ledger app on my phone requires precise location access to functio Are you sure that's not just for Bluetooth access (which shows the same message, since it can indeed be used to derive somebody's location)? What business reason do they have to send users' location to their servers? > graphene os with location disabled and always on VPN etc. If you don't trust Ledger – how much do you trust your VPN provider? T…

You need location access to scan for Bluetooth devices in app. Pretty sure you don’t need it to use already paired devices.

It’s because companies were using Bluetooth scanning in apps combined with known location beacons to work out users locations.

Re: French police free kidnapped Ledger executive

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How does the government of France decide whether your kidnapping is worth sending military tactical teams to rescue you?

Do you have reason to suspect that it's less than all?

That could be true. Normies don't often get kidnapped.

Re: French police free kidnapped Ledger executive

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I have a significant amount of crypto and use a ledger wallet. Recently I noticed that the ledger app on my phone requires precise location access to function. It just hit me that ledger has precise locations and wallet balances of all its customers. It's just a matter of time when this information falls in the hands of organized crime. I have since then moved to another wallet and am thinking of selling my house and…

There are multiples alternatives to Ledger, they are the laughing stock of hardware crypto wallets since they've started their online seed backup solution... at least among power users. Coldcard if you aren't into shitcoins, and Keepkey if you partake in them would be my choices. I would have recommended Trezor at some point but their customer data leak tainted their image for me, they've made a lot of their customer…

This isn't true at all. Ledger has not been a laughingstock of the cryptocurrency community. Their hardware wallet has survived multiple attacks that Trezor has not. It has the strongest security model and easiest to use interface of any cryptocurrency wallet intended for regular use.
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