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Re: Caltrain's electric fleet more efficient than expected

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The electric Caltrain is so wonderful. It’s way quieter, the cars have nicer interiors, and it is running faster and more frequently than before. Between this, the new BART cars (also much quieter!), and Muni hitting a reliability & satisfaction records, there’s really a transit renaissance going on in the Bay Area. I really hope we can keep this going!

> It’s way quieter, the cars have nicer interiors, and it is running faster and more frequently than before.

Not that electric isn't a huge step up for all the usual reasons but most of that is just because it's new and hasn't been worn out yet.

Re: Caltrain's electric fleet more efficient than expected

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It's great, but it took more than 20 years to get here due to environmental reviews and shaky funding. ...and this was just re-fitting an existing, relatively short stretch of track!

We (as Californians) have GOT to do better than this! There are huge infrastructure projects that we need to undertake in the coming years. We have got to cut the red tape and properly fund projects.

Re: Caltrain's electric fleet more efficient than expected

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> BART police why does a transit system need its own police force? Aren't municipal and county police enough?

It's a chain of command (i.e. BART police report to BART, Campus police report to the school, way less messy than BART or the school having to convince the jurisdiction how to police the area) and prioritization thing. Bespoke police agencies exist to police their niche to an extent that would be unjustifiable if it were coming your normal police department and taking resources away from their other tasks. Transit po…

Except for the last one in your list, the others are quality of life problems. I have no problem if police interfere with either. Even the last one, is at best borderline. If there is a weirdo making machine guns in my neighborhood and I have kids, I sure as hell want police to interfere.

Re: Caltrain's electric fleet more efficient than expected

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post #3

The electric Caltrain is so wonderful. It’s way quieter, the cars have nicer interiors, and it is running faster and more frequently than before. Between this, the new BART cars (also much quieter!), and Muni hitting a reliability & satisfaction records, there’s really a transit renaissance going on in the Bay Area. I really hope we can keep this going!

Haha. Doubtful. In your lifetime you won't see any transit system in the bay area that approaches anything remotely close to what you see in places like Tokyo or NYC. I get that there's improvement but like it's still rather pathetic compared to almost everywhere else across the pond.

Why so negative? Given that the served population is conservatively a quarter of either of those areas, doesn't seem like a fair comparison.

More to the point, I've been favorably impressed with the transit options since moving here, and in terms of reliability it's been better than NYC, though obviously there are fewer trains/branches.

I'd love to see BART open later, like NYC, but even Tokyo trains stop at midnight.

Re: Caltrain's electric fleet more efficient than expected

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> BART police why does a transit system need its own police force? Aren't municipal and county police enough?

Presumably because police usually only have jurisdiction within their employer’s city limits, and sheriffs’ employees only have jurisdiction within their counties, so if mass transit moves between multiple jurisdictions, then their police can have jurisdiction wherever the mass transit goes (even across state lines, because a lot of metropolitan regions served by the same mass transit system span two or more states).

Wouldn't they just have jurisdiction in the transit area though? Like it's not like a BART employee could pull you over for speeding?

Re: Caltrain's electric fleet more efficient than expected

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post #3

The electric Caltrain is so wonderful. It’s way quieter, the cars have nicer interiors, and it is running faster and more frequently than before. Between this, the new BART cars (also much quieter!), and Muni hitting a reliability & satisfaction records, there’s really a transit renaissance going on in the Bay Area. I really hope we can keep this going!

How is safety these days? The last time I was in a BART station, I had to intervene in an uncomfortable situation where a (possibly high) man was bothering a young woman. It felt surreal because everyone around hadn’t helped her at all and was just ignoring what was happening.

Re: Caltrain's electric fleet more efficient than expected

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post #3

The electric Caltrain is so wonderful. It’s way quieter, the cars have nicer interiors, and it is running faster and more frequently than before. Between this, the new BART cars (also much quieter!), and Muni hitting a reliability & satisfaction records, there’s really a transit renaissance going on in the Bay Area. I really hope we can keep this going!

How is safety these days? The last time I was in a BART station, I had to intervene in an uncomfortable situation where a (possibly high) man was bothering a young woman. It felt surreal because everyone around hadn’t helped her at all and was just ignoring what was happening.

BART is better than it was but still bad. Caltrain is totally fine though.

Re: Caltrain's electric fleet more efficient than expected

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Train technology is so behind compared to road electric vehicles.

Companies that build train batteries have been trying to sell to us (car OEMs) lately, and we look at the battery specs and battery management system capabilities and go uhhhh…

On the motor and control fronts as well.

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