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Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

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Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

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Post by ummmzokbro »

deeviant wrote: post #19

What value does this provide over using Ollama and one of the many already available cross-platform local frontends available for it?

Such as:

- GPT4all - Lmstudio - LocalAI - Jan - KoboldAI - SillyTavern - Oobabooga - ComfyUI (now supports text) - Llama.cpp - Ollama

Many of which have very large capabilities, more permissive licenses and are very actively maintained.

And then there is also OpenwebUI which seems to be consolidating this space rapidly with a huge feature set and ecosystem of tools and models. And 'Artifacts' style IDE coming shortly.

Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

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Post by CGamesPlay »

Basic polish things you might want to fix up quickly: 1) The site in the github repo description is a broken link 2) The description itself says "iOS client" which I don't understand at all and 3) The actual webpage's title is "My Framer Site".

Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

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Post by MacsHeadroom »

telenardo wrote: post #7
elashri wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would like to add that this is probably not deceptive advertising. At least not intentional deceptive as many people including me didn't know that CC licenses are not meant for software and is not considered open source. I don't know if it is common misunderstanding or not but I think there is strong case to say that some people intuitively would think so.

Yes, that's right. This was definitely not intentional and we are very open to changing it to something more appropriate!

BSD or MIT license would be nice.

Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

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Post by satvikpendem »

josephernest wrote: post #10
emacsen wrote: post #3

I was so so excited to read this, then I saw the headline is deceptive. It's not Open Source; it uses a Creative Common "Non-Commercial" license. CC licenses are not meant for software. They explicitly say so on their FAQ: https://creativecommons.org/faq/#can-i-apply-a-creative-comm... And non-commercial licenses are not Open Source, period. This has been well established since the 1990s, both by the FSF and the OSI.…

I disagree. Ok, a non-commercial Creative Common license is not "OSI-open source" or "FSF-open source", but it is technically "open source". The source is open. The open source societal movement is much broader than the narrow definition given by OSI or FSF. OP, your tool is perfectly fine with a non-commercial creative common license. The fact that CC licenses are not specific for software does not imply it is a bad…

Then say source available, not open source, because the latter connotes the freedoms as mentioned in the OSI definition, for most people who use that phrase.

Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

#25

Post by HeatrayEnjoyer »

MacsHeadroom wrote: post #23
telenardo wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, that's right. This was definitely not intentional and we are very open to changing it to something more appropriate!

BSD or MIT license would be nice.

AGPL would be better

Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

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Post by evilduck »

I can't connect to any remote models without allowing the app to connect to the domain "syntheticco.blob.core.windows.net". Blocking this prevents any API connection from functioning. Why are you sending something to Microsoft's blob storage?

Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

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Post by [deleted] »

emacsen wrote: post #15
josephernest wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think your choice is very appropriate. And it is open source. Probably not OSI-open source or FSF-open source but it is open source, period.

"It's not recognized as Open Source by the Open Source body, and doesn't meet the criteria of Free/Open Source Software, but is Open Source" is a bit like saying "I used GMO and petroleum based pesticides, but my produce is all organic."

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Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

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Post by drdaeman »

josephernest wrote: post #10
emacsen wrote: post #3

I was so so excited to read this, then I saw the headline is deceptive. It's not Open Source; it uses a Creative Common "Non-Commercial" license. CC licenses are not meant for software. They explicitly say so on their FAQ: https://creativecommons.org/faq/#can-i-apply-a-creative-comm... And non-commercial licenses are not Open Source, period. This has been well established since the 1990s, both by the FSF and the OSI.…

I disagree. Ok, a non-commercial Creative Common license is not "OSI-open source" or "FSF-open source", but it is technically "open source". The source is open. The open source societal movement is much broader than the narrow definition given by OSI or FSF. OP, your tool is perfectly fine with a non-commercial creative common license. The fact that CC licenses are not specific for software does not imply it is a bad…

That's because "open source" is a bad name, since it only focuses on source code availability rather than three other essential freedoms. "Free/libre software" always made more sense, but "open source" got significantly more popular.

Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

#29

Post by acka »

> We built this because we believe: Universal Access: AI assistants should be accessible from anywhere on my computer, not just in the browser or in specific apps.

I find this somewhat ironic, given that the software only supports Apple computers. It would have been nice for OP to mention this fact upfront in the announcement, so as not to get non-Apple users' expectations up too soon.

Re: Show HN: Onit – Source-available ChatGPT Desktop with local mode, Claude, Gemini

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Post by telenardo »

evilduck wrote: post #26

I can't connect to any remote models without allowing the app to connect to the domain "syntheticco.blob.core.windows.net". Blocking this prevents any API connection from functioning. Why are you sending something to Microsoft's blob storage?

We pull the list of available models from that URL! Not sending anything, just fetching so we can display an up-to-date list of models.

This the URL that we fetch: https://syntheticco.blob.core.windows.net/onit/models.json

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