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Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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> Even (cis) men have "locker room talk," things you wouldn't say when around most women. Dunno, if you can't say it around women, at all ever, then it probably doesn't hold up to scrutiny. I'd say you share raunchy stuff with people you know to not have a problem with it, and depending on what it is that might be your guy friends more often, sure. But I know men who are way more stuck up than some women I know, not…

> I just disagree that cis men say stuff amongst themselves they wouldn't around women, while homosexual or bisexual men would never do that. Nothing they said implied the 2nd part even slightly. And not because most homosexual and bisexual men are cis.

Same difference. What makes non-cis men special that they required specific exclusion from that sentence?

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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My personal experience as a trans woman? The space is full of men who want to have sex with trans women, while most of these trans women are interested only in people similar to themselves. IE, queer, non binary, trans. And you get spammed dickpicks by the hundreds. Even if you explicitly say "I DON'T WANT DICKPICKS AND I WILL REPORT YOU IF YOU SEND ME A DICKPICK" and then you receive a dickpick? And point to the rep…

> most of these trans women are interested only in people similar to themselves. IE, queer, non binary, trans That sounds kind of odd to me. I don’t have any experience or insight to people’s experiences here but I would assume that most trans people are trans because they want to be the opposite sex, not because they want to be trans specifically. This statement here suggests they’re identifying as trans more so tha…

This is talking about sexuality, not gender identity. Who you want to have sex with is not determined by your sex or gender. It is correlated, but not determined (as in more cis men are bi and straight than gay, thus a random man is more likely to be bi or straight than gay).

In this case, she's talking about her preferences which can be any identity, sex etc.

For example, a trans person may prefer to date other trans people because they will have more common experiences and there will be less explaining if how things work on their body etc. Others might have preferences based on primary or secondary sex characteristics. Others may only date people who like a specific type of cheese.

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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That's not an observation. That's speculation.

Fairly valid speculation, I my opinion. If I were in the US, and particularly in one of the seriously intolerant red states, there's no way I'd want and of my details in their database. I don't think it's catastrophising to consider there may well be very real risks to being openly trans in the US in the near future. Risks of not only blackhat 4chan hackers, but also from government and legal system attacks on sites…

There's nothing new about this, sad though it is. People, particularly insecure people, have tried to suppress minorities since the dawn of time, and they're constantly inventing new ways to do it.

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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How is it a bad idea? A community for trans people that's actively used by them because it works for their needs should be considered a bad idea because certain assholes can attack it? The bad there is in the assholes and effort is due in stopping them, not the existence for a specific type of useful community itself.

It's a bad idea when countries like mine are actively passing legislation toward banning trans people from existing. Having a hackable dox-ready list of where to find them and who they are would be quite convenient for any regime or its fervent supporters that have the resources and skill to weaponize such a service against them. I get what you're saying, the assholes are the bad thing here...but they are also a clea…

You're talking as if these threats are new to us. They're not. America is not the world, and treatment of trans people wasn't great in America prior to the current administration, either. I don't see a reason to disband our communities because the trans hate is slightly more front-and-center than it was a few years ago. They are needed now more than ever.

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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> But now more like 'the purge' type dangerous with roving gangs with dogs chasing trans people through the country side. Do you honestly believe anything like this is going to happen?

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You've been breaking the site guidelines so badly in so many places that I've banned the account. Please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42768447

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Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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email me if you need a code review

Without wishing to appear overly snippy, this is how I would begin hacking such a site. Offer to do a "code review".

"Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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> And I (rightfully) view congregations of transgender women mostly as a (white)-male dominated place. You need to get out in the world more, that's a very limited locale specific PoV.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336597435/figure/fi...

68% seems 'mostly'.

As does this map: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/trans-pop...

/ˈməʊs(t)li/ adverb as regards the greater part or number.

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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I mean that scientific theories nowadays are supposed to make testable predictions, and when those predictions consistently fail, you have to say "okay, this theory is not correct". If your theory is capable of "explaining" every possible piece of evidence, it's not a scientific theory. (Some people would go further than Karl Popper, saying that it's not even meaningful .) I'm pretty sure this is in The Open Society…

Thanks. Not to dive too far into the weeds ... but I'm wondering if there's something I misunderstand about Popper: > If your theory is capable of "explaining" every possible piece of evidence, it's not a scientific theory. Do you mean, if your theory is not falsifiable? If your falsifiable theory is not (yet) falsified, if you magically know it never will be falsified, isn't it still a theory? (If it's just a matter…

I've misused the word "possible": I meant to say that if the theory is equally-capable of "explaining" two mutually-incompatible states of affairs, it does not actually have the explanatory power that all scientific theories must have. Which, yes, I think "falsifiable" is the correct word for that. (Although, you'll note that my explanation of "falsifiable" is not precisely correct. I think I've convinced myself that there is no logically-precise definition of "falsifiable", and that it inherently leans on some intuitive notion of "possibly-falsifying evidence" which we have to take for granted, like philosophical induction.)

However, that was itself me being lazy, because Blanchard's typology does make concrete predictions about what sorts of people exist. The assertion that people can be classified into "attracted to women" and "not attracted to women" is refuted by the Kinsey Reports (and many better studies besides); the assertion that being trans is a sex thing is refuted by the existence of certain ace trans people; the assertion that transition is about imitation is refuted by the existence of certain non-binary people…

Of course, Ray Blanchard himself bolts on new categories whenever he can't fudge the analysis to fit a pre-existing conclusion – last I checked, he had around 10 categories – but most adherents treat the original two categories as dogma. (The lengths to which people will go for a gender binary…)

Really, I should say that if you're cis and relying on thought experiments, Blanchard's typology is unfalsifiable: you will simply not be able to observe any evidence that refutes it. I myself (not then having much contact with out trans people (if we discount Reddit)) had to do a lot of introspection (could I rule out self-deception? wishful thinking? how?) before I concluded that either my internal subjective experience refuted the typology (and its variants), or I was too insane to be capable of reasoning. This tendency towards solipsism did not do me many favours (and was ultimately quite harmful, for reasons I will not discuss here), but it did at least prepare me for the many other academics who talk out of their arses about things they have no legitimate claim to expertise in, save for being among the first academics to study it. (Or, in Ray Blanchard's case, among the first academics to study it after the Nazi purge.)

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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I think the problem is that laws that are trying to force morality on people.

The general problem is that web site X doesn't know if user Y lives in state Z. And most of the realistic ways to allow them to know this are huge PII disasters waiting to happen. This has nothing to do with morality. If states wanted to ban HN, it would be just as ridiculous. Using IP address is about as pointless as using your mobile phone's area code.

No, the problem is unchecked moral panicking. IP geoblocking is mitigation.
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