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Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by cubefox »

saagarjha wrote: post #308
whoah111 wrote: post #307

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Yes, because there are very few instances where you would genuinely need to know that information. If you are in one of those (hint: you are my primary care physician or romantic partner), I will offer it to you freely. I believe this even though my biological and expressed gender align. There are plenty of characteristics that are rude to ask even when they are factual. Asking people their age is often rude, even th…

Asking people's age for statistical purposes or reporting that statistic is not at all rude. It's anonymous.

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Post by actualwitch »

bragr wrote: post #172
mmooss wrote: post #166

Either HN suddenly became far more constructive and considerate, and on an inflammatory topic, or dang is doing an incredible job moderating this discussion. I'll just hazard a guess and say - thank you dang! But dang - please don't let this off-topic comment sit at the top of the page and distract from t4t's post.

If you turn on "show dead", there's an unusually large and alarming number of dead replies on this ranging from fairly banal flame baiting to outright bigotry and slurs. That alone probably shows the value in having these kinds of dedicated niche community sites.

> unusually large and alarming number of dead replies

If you search previous discussions on this site that in any way touch on lgbt/trans topic in the slightest, you will find it is not unusual at all. The only surprising thing about this post is that it somehow wasn't immediately flagged/removed from front page.

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Post by corobo »

quesera wrote: post #315
lazyasciiart wrote: post #61

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A better metric might be “could a casual network filtering program pick up something that would be forbidden at work”.

Wouldn't such a network filter also trigger on random (in the sense of unpredictable to the reader) pages here on HN though? Or Reddit, etc? I've never lived under such a regime, but all of the trigger words I can imagine at OP's site are also present in generally-SFW discussion forums.

Yeah but the IT bod looking into it would see the rest of the site as context

If they check on a site and it's heavy on the NSFW maybe things get looked into with a bit more of a "... is this person browsing porn at work?" attitude

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by computerthings »

fwip wrote: post #191
xrd wrote: post #4

As someone who isn't familiar with the norms of this community, the first few posts were somewhat surprising. I mean to say, they were overtly sexual and public. I have many trans friends and gay friends so I'm not saying I've never heard terminology like that, but it was usually in a closed conversation. I wonder if those are spam comments? It would be interesting to hear how you plan to guard against people who wil…

Most communities act differently when it's just themselves in a space they own, as compared to when they're in a space that is less homogenous. The queer scene is a lot more open with sexuality than the cishet one. Even (cis) men have "locker room talk," things you wouldn't say when around most women.

> Even (cis) men have "locker room talk," things you wouldn't say when around most women.

Dunno, if you can't say it around women, at all ever, then it probably doesn't hold up to scrutiny. I'd say you share raunchy stuff with people you know to not have a problem with it, and depending on what it is that might be your guy friends more often, sure. But I know men who are way more stuck up than some women I know, not even a contest. If I was in a big group of guys and there was the expressed or implied statement of "okay, since we're amongst heterosexual men only now, we can say certain things we normally can't say" I would just get out.

That's not a statement on the site OP posted, I just disagree that cis men say stuff amongst themselves they wouldn't around women, while homosexual or bisexual men would never do that. There's bigots and people who can actually own what they say anywhere, no group is purely saint or evil.

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Post by matthewdgreen »

mmooss wrote: post #128
t4t wrote: post #10

The biggest piece of feedback I think I have gotten from posting here is that the nsfw content is a bit shocking which I get. Sorry about that. My guess is that if you just scrolled twitter or whatever by new exclusively unfiltered you wouldn’t have that different an experience. On the one hand I do think there is something interesting about the rawness of this network but also some sort of smart nsfw filtering is cl…

Several US states now require age verification for adult content (I don't know how that is defined). A case challenging such laws is being considered by the US Supreme Court, but most experts believe the court will allow the age verification. That may mean users identifying themselves, which seems dangerous. (It should not at all be dangerous, but it is.) All you need is some phobic government official to sue or inve…

You can use cryptography to perform parts of verification. Specifically, you can use anonymous credentials to prove to a specific website that you have a credential. But that credential must then be issued by some authority that actually examines your physical "proof of age" (driver's license etc.) and issues it to your device.

The problem is that, at least at the moment, simply obtaining a credential like this has a huge chilling effect. You need to mail stuff into some crummy company chosen by the government, which then processes it and takes time. That company might be breached, which identifies you as "a person who is specifically interested in accessing adult content." Many of these problems can theoretically be fixed, but fixing them would have to be the goal of the authorities -- and I suspect it is not.

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Post by numpad0 »

Dalewyn wrote: post #200
technion wrote: post #194

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I think this ship has sailed. Services like nord or mullad are described as VPN products yet they are the products people are buying to route traffic into pornhub.

Seeing as Hacker News is ostensibly composed largely of people in-the-know, we could certainly use appropriate terminology unlike the commons.

"VPN" services do in fact use VPN, they're not HTTP based. It is technically appropriate to call them as such, as awkward as it is.

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Post by monkeyfun »

robertlagrant wrote: post #301
ETH_start wrote: post #245

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It's 100% bullshit. The parents themselves are responsible for letting their children browse the internet unsupervised. The culture of over-reaction to danger that has taken over the political domain is creating a nanny state where it's impossible to avoid crosssing red lines and doing something wrong. It's paralyzing society by instilling inaction as the only safe path.

> The parents themselves are responsible for letting their children browse the internet unsupervised. Unless you never let your child near any slightly older child with a phone, you as a parent cannot individually control this. > The culture of over-reaction to danger Which is it? Is it that parents haven't protected their children enough, or that children don't need protection from watching pornography?

>Unless you never let your child near any slightly older child with a phone, you as a parent cannot individually control this.

...are you implying kids are having group jerkoff / porn sessions? Seems like a pretty absurd claim.

Also, on your second point, you seem to be almost strawmanning -- I see no claim from the person you're replying to that they think kids need more protection.

They're stating that parents are actively giving their kids devices, and have a lot of tools to restrict usage of those devices. Whether they literally limit physical access, oversee use, or install filtering software, there's a lot that can be done to restrict access in an authoritarian manner to those kids, and exclusively within the household without having to affect and restrict the overwhelming majority of society: grown adults.

(I also personally believe education is more important than any sort of restriction, and am always against censorship or surveillance policies in general. I definitely agree with them on but I'm trying to mostly restrict my post to what that person almost definitely had in mind, rather than soapboxing my own views).

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by mrgoldenbrown »

whoah111 wrote: post #307
saagarjha wrote: post #291

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Because focusing on biological ratios is generally considered to be incredibly rude in such a community (and probably most communities?)

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Please cite the LGBTQ oriented communities you are part of where it is considered polite to quiz people about their genitals.
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