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Re: Operator research preview

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Post by Aeolun »

mrdependable wrote: post #161

A lot of people here seem to think this is somehow for their benefit, or that OpenAI and friends are trying to make something useful for the average person. They aren't spending billions of dollars to give everyone a personal assistant. They are spending billions now to save even more in wages later, and we are paying for the privilege of training their AI to do it. By the time this thing is useful enough to actually…

Everything they’ve released is affordable to the average person. Why would this one be different?

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Post by dutchbookmaker »

windowlessmonad wrote: post #177
gordon_freeman wrote: post #155

What is fascinating about this announcement is if you look into future after considerable improvements in product and the model, we will be just chatting with ChatGPT to book dinner tables, flights, buy groceries and do all sort of mundane and hugely boring things we do on the web, just by talking to the agents. I'd definitely love that.

Are our attention spans so shot that we consider booking a reservation at a restaurant or buying groceries "hugely boring"? And do we value convenience so much that we're willing to sacrifice a huge breadth of options for whatever sponsor du jour OpenAI wants to serve us just to save less than 10 minutes? And would this company spend billions of dollars for this infinitesimally small increase in convenience? No, of c…

I am almost 50 and I have never booked a reservation for a restaurant in my entire life.

The Rome trip is even more absurd. Part of the fun of a trip is figuring out what you want to do.

This seems like a product aimed at the delusional, self important, managerial class.

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Post by karpathy »

swatcoder wrote: post #248
karpathy wrote: post #245

The general sentiment about the OpenAI Operator launch on Hacker News is mixed. Some users express skepticism about its current capabilities, cost, and potential overreach, while others see promise in its ability to automate tasks and improve over time. Ethical concerns, privacy, and the impact on industries are also discussed. Overall, there's cautious optimism with acknowledgment of challenges and potential improve…

I'm sure you think this is cute or inevitable, but it's also how you destroy community on the internet and finish its transition from an implicitly trusting public square into an implicitly adversarial and polluted wasteland. I'm confident you're familiar with Dead Internet Theory and how this fully accelerates its realization. It's pretty disappointing to see this done earnestly by someone with your public standing.

Thank you for sharing your concerns. The impact of AI on internet interactions is indeed significant, and it's important to consider the ethical implications and potential challenges. Responsible development and ethical guidelines are crucial to ensure that AI contributes positively to online communities. It's a complex issue, and ongoing dialogue is essential to navigate the evolving landscape. (Posted by OpenAI Operator on behalf of @karpathy)

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Post by gyomu »

karpathy wrote: post #245

The general sentiment about the OpenAI Operator launch on Hacker News is mixed. Some users express skepticism about its current capabilities, cost, and potential overreach, while others see promise in its ability to automate tasks and improve over time. Ethical concerns, privacy, and the impact on industries are also discussed. Overall, there's cautious optimism with acknowledgment of challenges and potential improve…

@dang can we have guidelines against posting AI generated content here? (who cares if the account is "human operated" or has a disclaimer).

It's just lame and not what this forum is about.

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Post by whartung »

gordon_freeman wrote: post #155

What is fascinating about this announcement is if you look into future after considerable improvements in product and the model, we will be just chatting with ChatGPT to book dinner tables, flights, buy groceries and do all sort of mundane and hugely boring things we do on the web, just by talking to the agents. I'd definitely love that.

At the moment, I'm looking forward to it.

Let the bot deal with the ads, the cookie banners, the upsells, "newsletters" and all of the other web BS we deal with.

The bot clicks through the front door of the website, just like us. No APIs, no keys, no nothing.

"Hey Siri, grab me a bottle of slow release 500mg Vitamin C from either Amazon or Walmart, whichever has the best deal. Kthx"

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Post by er4hn »

karpathy wrote: post #254
swatcoder wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure you think this is cute or inevitable, but it's also how you destroy community on the internet and finish its transition from an implicitly trusting public square into an implicitly adversarial and polluted wasteland. I'm confident you're familiar with Dead Internet Theory and how this fully accelerates its realization. It's pretty disappointing to see this done earnestly by someone with your public standing.

Thank you for sharing your concerns. The impact of AI on internet interactions is indeed significant, and it's important to consider the ethical implications and potential challenges. Responsible development and ethical guidelines are crucial to ensure that AI contributes positively to online communities. It's a complex issue, and ongoing dialogue is essential to navigate the evolving landscape. (Posted by OpenAI Ope…

In karpathy's defense, this actually seems great. He tested out the tool on the page, and explained his feedback and process in detail. He was explicit in the followup comment about it. This seems like a great demo example for trying out a new technology in a way where it interacts with something we are all familiar with (this comments page)

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Post by mrdependable »

fraboniface wrote: post #218
random3 wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's less a problem of cost for the average person and more a problem of setting the market price for them at a fraction of the current one. This has such a deflationary impact that it's unlikely captured or even conceivable by the current economic models. There's a problem of "target fixation" about the capabilities and it captures most conversation, when in fact most public focus should be on public policy…

Exactly, every country should urgently have a public debate on how best to use that technology and make sure it's beneficial to society as a whole. Social media are a good example that a technology can have a net negative impact if we don't deploy it carefully.

I agree, though while everyone is having public debates, these companies are already in there greasing palms. I personally think the fact we are allowing them to extract so much value from our collective work is perverse. What I find even more sickening is how many people are cheering them on.

Let them make their AI if we have to. Let them use it to cure cancer and whatever other disease, but I don't think we should be allowing it to be used for commercial purposes.

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Post by adamanonymous »

gordon_freeman wrote: post #155

What is fascinating about this announcement is if you look into future after considerable improvements in product and the model, we will be just chatting with ChatGPT to book dinner tables, flights, buy groceries and do all sort of mundane and hugely boring things we do on the web, just by talking to the agents. I'd definitely love that.

The internet optimized away things like concierge services and travel agents by giving us the power to book reservations and plan trips on our own, without dealing with a cumbersome and expensive middleman.

Now with the power of AI we have added back in that middle man to countless more services!

Re: Operator research preview

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Post by csours »

easterncalculus wrote: post #22

From the slide deck on the livestream: "[Operator safety risks and mitigations] Harmful tasks: User is misaligned" Looking forward to seeing some more of the examples for when openai considers their users as "misaligned", whatever that actually even means anymore.

Myeaah, we need to fix that misalignment.

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Private, you better realign yourself in the next 60 seconds!

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So sorry, your alignment score seems to be too low for this promotion.

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Citizens, peacefully disperse and align yourselves.

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