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Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by bigiain »

otterley wrote: post #116
gowld wrote: post #90

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That's not an observation. That's speculation.

Fairly valid speculation, I my opinion.

If I were in the US, and particularly in one of the seriously intolerant red states, there's no way I'd want and of my details in their database.

I don't think it's catastrophising to consider there may well be very real risks to being openly trans in the US in the near future. Risks of not only blackhat 4chan hackers, but also from government and legal system attacks on sites like this.

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by mmooss »

groby_b wrote: post #127
PaulHoule wrote: post #83

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> "Cultural appropriation" is a fancy way to say "I only want to learn from people just like me".

Cultural appropriation is learning about things only from people like you, not from the people outside your culture who created it and who may have jarring perspectives and expressions of them.

For example - just something I recently saw - lots of 1950s-60s rock musicians like Elvis and the Rolling Stones appropriated music from black musicians and cashed in on it with legions of white teens. The teens never heard the original musicians or music; they got sanitized, safe, and familiar forms of it - they never encountered much of the original culture or heard from the original people. Apparently some RS performances were note-for-note, vocal-riff-for-vocal-riff copies. (To be fair, the RS apparently often toured with some of the original musicians as opening acts.)

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by PaulHoule »

groby_b wrote: post #127
PaulHoule wrote: post #83

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Perhaps I and my fox want to "belong" in general (to the community of life on earth) but they don't want to take on other people's baggage (belong to a community that excludes participation in other communities)

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by spencerflem »

groby_b wrote: post #127
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Cultural Appropriation is super often misused (as it was in this case), but does describe a real thing.

Just like how people complain that 'crypto' now only means cryptocurrency, or people complain that the new star wars movies 'killed their childhood' etc, having something that you have a strong connection to have its meaning distorted sucks.

Imagine if seeing a holy cross, the first thing you thought of wasn't the religious meaning but that it was the logo for some company.

One of many terms that got taken way out of context and abused by lots of people, some with good intentions and some not

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by spencerflem »

mmooss wrote: post #152
groby_b wrote: post #127

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> "Cultural appropriation" is a fancy way to say "I only want to learn from people just like me". Cultural appropriation is learning about things only from people like you, not from the people outside your culture who created it and who may have jarring perspectives and expressions of them. For example - just something I recently saw - lots of 1950s-60s rock musicians like Elvis and the Rolling Stones appropriated mu…

exactly! to the point that that music is now synonmous with Elvis and the original culture is lost.

I dont even think 'Cultural Appropriation' describes like, what we ought to do about that in any specific terms. maybe nothing. it more just identifies a problem

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by mmooss »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #107
01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote: post #97

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The HSTS / AGP dichotomy is not taken seriously among trans people or care providers, don't listen to this person.

In the post-Karl Popper academic landscape, it's hard to beat the absurdity to explanatory-power ratio of Sigmund Freud's "penis envy", but Ray Blanchard's ravings about trans people are certainly a contender. The "science experiments" he ran to "support" his "theories" aren't quite Philip Zimbardo levels of unethical quackery, but I'm still not sure how attaching electrodes to people's genitals and making them watch…

> In the post-Karl Popper academic landscape

OT: What do you mean by that? I know Popper, I can guess what you mean, but what do you mean?

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by CaptainFever »

Saw a post that says they found the website via the "terrible orange site"?! Grumble grumble. /jk

In all seriousness though, this is great! And good timing too, such a community is needed now more than ever before. Does this website cater to otherkins too, or is that a separate concern (which is completely ok too)?

About the funding: are you basically just using lightweight services to keep the cost down, while paying for it out of pocket or with donations? Is there a contingency plan if -- touch wood -- you go rogue or shut down the app?

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by Aromasin »

chimeracoder wrote: post #142
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #134

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All the porn companies have handled this by simply blocking the sites in the states in question, just forcing people to use VPNs. If you ask for ID verification to see NSFW content they know hardly anyone would provide it, and at the same time it opens you up to a lot of liability in handling extremely sensitive PII. The whole thing is just moralistic BS anyway. I'm sure most kids can figure out how to use a VPN bett…

> If you ask for ID verification to see NSFW content they know hardly anyone would provide it, and at the same time it opens you up to a lot of liability in handling extremely sensitive PII. Yes, and that is exactly why Morality in Media (the right-wing, evangelical group behind these laws) has been proposing them. Their goal is to outlaw pornography (and other "immoral" content) on the internet by making it so diffi…

This seems a little baffling to me because these evangelical groups are uniquely American. There would still exist a huge pornography industry globally, particularly within the EU, that would serve the US even if these groups achieved every goal. It's deluded to think it could be stopped.

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by comprambler »

quesera wrote: post #39
whalesalad wrote: post #15

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How is creating or operating a community “painting a bullseye” ? And tbh now more than ever I think it’s important for communities like this to exist.

Interpreting Animats' question as concern for the user population, I think it's a valid one. The new administration in the US is openly hostile, and a lot of damage could be done to peoples' lives if, say, the community was hacked and private email addresses (or other PII) was leaked. And I also agree with you -- now's the time for those of us who can afford it, to fly our ally flags as loudly and proudly as possible…

Threat model this shit.

I would dead man switch the storage's Azure instance. Mayybe the whole thing. Mayybe shouldn't be on azure.

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by mmooss »

quesera wrote: post #39
whalesalad wrote: post #15

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How is creating or operating a community “painting a bullseye” ? And tbh now more than ever I think it’s important for communities like this to exist.

Interpreting Animats' question as concern for the user population, I think it's a valid one. The new administration in the US is openly hostile, and a lot of damage could be done to peoples' lives if, say, the community was hacked and private email addresses (or other PII) was leaked. And I also agree with you -- now's the time for those of us who can afford it, to fly our ally flags as loudly and proudly as possible…

> if, say, the community was hacked and private email addresses (or other PII) was leaked.

Or just basic ISP, or other provider, logging domains visited per user.

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