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Hacking Subaru: Tracking and controlling cars via the admin panel

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Re: Hacking Subaru: Tracking and controlling cars via the admin panel

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Did you perhaps forgot to edit and add the link? I'm interested in hearing about that

I hope you speak German.

If you download the .mp4 you will notice it is 'deu-eng-fra', there is an English overdub available as a separate audio track.

Re: Hacking Subaru: Tracking and controlling cars via the admin panel

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My 2017 Mazda with CarPlay does something similar. It truncates any lists (songs, podcast episodes, contacts, etc) that CarPlay displays to 10 items. All it does is incentivize folks to use their phone. It's incredibly annoying because the Mazda command dial for interacting with CarPlay is otherwise excellent and I don't think that limiting the list size does anything to reduce distraction.

It is an incentive to use Siri. You can’t actually use carplay if Siri is disabled.

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Re: Hacking Subaru: Tracking and controlling cars via the admin panel

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I was lucky to have the DCM in my 2019 Outback (which is responsible for cellular communication and thus this whole STARLINK thing) replaced with a bypass box under the warranty program related to the end of 3G service. My car was trying to go online 30 times an hour or something like that, draining the battery enough that it needed to be replaced after just 4 years. They don't have enough new DCMs so they were willi…

FWIW i never replaced the 3g box in my 2018 subaru, and never have a battery drain issue. the battery did fail about 4 years in to owning the car, but it was a cell failure not a drain issue.

My local mechanic said that there is a firmware update that supposedly fixes the radio drain last time I replaced the battery but I haven't looked into it. He primarily works on Subarus and it sounded like he'd seen that as a root cause of dead battery a lot.

Re: Hacking Subaru: Tracking and controlling cars via the admin panel

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You can also do other stuff like start the climate controls so the car is comfortable before you reach it on hot or cold days.

You can also do other stuff like start the climate controls so the car is comfortable before you reach it on hot or cold days. Also a solved problem. This one since at least the 1970's. No internet required.

I'd only really heard of it as an aftermarket feature you had to mod onto the vehicle not as a base part of a package. At least not in the low market range you can get that feature now. Used EVs less than 30k come with that feature now.

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Not surprised. I've had a few interactions with Subaru connected services dev team as an external contractor from another car company, everyone was everyone else's cousin, friend, homeboy from India. Nepotism was rampant, no one wanted to listen to advice, a strong culture of corporate antibodies had formed. I'm surprised they even got it to work at this level.

I love my Subaru as far as reliability, all wheel drive performance in snow and ice, and such. But OMG it's consumer tech was dated when I bough it, and it's just full of inexplicable issues and caveats and such. Even just the limitations and the UX issues are so obvious that it sends a message that if they tried to fix them they would introduce just as many new issues. I'm at the point where despite the car being go…

Hmm this is really different than my experience with a 2018 Crosstrek, so maybe things have changed? When I bought it, Subaru was among the earlier CarPlay/Android Auto adopters (we specifically ruled out a new model year Prius because it lacked it and we couldn't wait a year to replace our totaled car just for CarPlay/AA), and other than a very rare issue where the head unit screen doesn't turn on, it's been pretty rock solid with both phone OSes.

Environmental controls are all physical hardware, CarPlay/AA is integrated well, etc; I can't really complain about any UX in the car.

The only UX gripe I can think of is that Apple doesn't let you use natural touch inputs to pan/zoom a map (instead forcing you to tap to bring up on-screen d-pad, then keep tapping the tiny button targets while trying to keep an eye on the road), but that's entirely on Apple; Android Auto allows normal 2 finger pan/zoom, so it's not a Subaru problem.

Re: Hacking Subaru: Tracking and controlling cars via the admin panel

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I have a 2013 Outback Limited that is basically right before all this stuff got really stupid and weird. It's a great car other than it's not very fast and it gets really bad gas mileage. Amazing in the snow. I have had it since December 2012, so I've had plenty of service visits where I got newer loaners. (I special ordered my car to basically load it but not have Starlink, not have the Sunroof, but have the leather…

In addition to your comments, I think Subaru's all-wheel drive system has been switched to electrical instead of mechanical, making it worse. There are roller tests on youtube which show Subaru AWD being outperformed by Ford AWD systems.

The CVT in combination with the terrible traction control also kills any chance you have of getting out of a stuck situation. Subaru's AWD system is now mostly just marketing. So it's basically on part with most AWD systems, because most of them really are a joke.

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I can only say that every Indian boss I got started hiring only Indians.

You’re making the same mistake others here are. People hire from their networks just like they hire referrals. If you worked in India or China or wherever, you probably know some talented people of those ethnicities just as a result of your experience. Using your network to hire those talented people is normal and not discriminatory. Everyone does it. Somehow Indians are singularly attacked for it on hacker news and…

Only hiring Indians inside the US takes extra effort.

Re: Hacking Subaru: Tracking and controlling cars via the admin panel

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You can also do other stuff like start the climate controls so the car is comfortable before you reach it on hot or cold days.

You can also do other stuff like start the climate controls so the car is comfortable before you reach it on hot or cold days. Also a solved problem. This one since at least the 1970's. No internet required.

I can't tell sometimes if people are trolling on HN or just young. Many so called great innovations I see are just stuff that was available decades ago but didn't involve ad tech predators.

You can tell this stuff isn't that interesting to people otherwise they'd upcharge you for it instead of using it as a pathetic piece of bait for a trap.

Re: Hacking Subaru: Tracking and controlling cars via the admin panel

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Remote start, climate etc from the app all require and always on connection (how else?). Tesla has the same thing. I use the remote app often - quite useful.

Remote start does not require an app nor an always on connection. I was able to do this with a key fob in the early 00s

I know how key fobs work, thank you.

I mean the ability to control the car remotely without line of sight or being anywhere near it, such as turning on the climate to warm up the car while still in a building so it's not freezing cold when we get back to the car with the kids, or while the car is in the garage, locking the car remotely because you're blocks away and aren't 100% sure you locked it before you left, opening the windows slightly so the car doesn't overheat in hot weather (Subaru doesn't do this unfortunately, but the Tesla does). The one thing it doesn't do which I wish it did, is roll up the windows remotely.

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