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Re: The Apollo 11 Journey in Photographs

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Post by andyjohnson0 » Mon, Jul 23, 2012, 8:41 AM UTC

js2 wrote: post #3

I cannot recommend "A Man on the Moon" by Andrew Chaikin highly enough. It's an incredible read. Go find it and read it. The HBO mini-series, From the Earth to the Moon, largely based on that book is also quite excellent. Go find it and watch it. -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_Earth_to_the_Moon_(TV_... If you're still looking for more material after that, I'd go read "Failure is Not an Option" by Gene Kranz…

Chaikin's book is excellent. Two books on Apollo that I'd recommend:

1. How Apollo Flew to the Moon, by W David Woods. Don't be put off by the cheesy cover, this book goes into a lot of technical detail and does a pretty good job of explaining things.

2. Digital Apollo by David A. Mindell. A detailed look at the use of digital technology in Apollo, particularly for guidance. Lots of chewy technical detail.

These books would definitely appeal to many HN readers with an interest in spaceflight.

Re: The Apollo 11 Journey in Photographs

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Post by ColinWright » Mon, Jul 23, 2012, 11:13 AM UTC

ommunist wrote: post #10

It is unusual how many people still believe in this hoax. Dudes, this never happened. Only the Soviet robots did really something on the Moon. Check the regolite story, check the Stormwind icebreaker mission story. No, you do not want to see the truth, you just like to please yourself with that warm and fuzzy feeling of being proud.

Fascinating. I'd like to ask you a couple of questions:

* How did they fake the video of the astronauts on the Moon? Please be careful to pay attention to explaining the arc of the dust they kick up.

* How did they fake the open-loop back on the recordings where the delay exactly matches the orbit of the Moon, and in an apparently unanticipated analysis 40 years later it was possible to deduce from the recordings alone the date of the recording?

Thanks.

Re: The Apollo 11 Journey in Photographs

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Post by goatforce5 » Mon, Jul 23, 2012, 1:13 PM UTC

matt_e wrote: post #4

I highly recommend the book 'Full Moon' compiled by photographer Michael Light. He's gone through the archives and reproduced many of the old medium format photographs taken by the astronauts on the Apollo Missions. I find the shots from the astronauts on board the craft at least as fascinating as the moon landscapes, seeing them up there strapped into technology (apparent from design, typography, etc) that's so clea…

> so clearly from an era that from today's POV looks so archaic

I managed to get maybe 45 minutes at the Smithsonian on a quick visit to DC 15+ years ago. Being able to go right up next to the actual capsules that some of the early astronauts had used and seeing the rivets didn't always exactly line up, or bundles of cables tied together with bits of string... It all looked a bit rickety.

Those guys had giant balls to be strapped in to those rockets and hope for the best.

Re: The Apollo 11 Journey in Photographs

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Post by laserDinosaur » Mon, Jul 23, 2012, 2:46 PM UTC

rogerbinns wrote: post #2

There is a wonderful HD video showing the first 30 seconds of launch from a high speed camera, taking 8 minutes. It is incredible the details just for that part of the mission. http://vimeo.com/4366695 I recall reading somewhere that the walls of the lunar lander were so thin that if you stabbed them with a pencil it would go right through.

I think there is a quote of one of them saying that they were scared that if they dropped a screwdriver it would go right through the floor.

Re: The Apollo 11 Journey in Photographs

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Post by laserDinosaur » Mon, Jul 23, 2012, 2:52 PM UTC

ommunist wrote: post #10

It is unusual how many people still believe in this hoax. Dudes, this never happened. Only the Soviet robots did really something on the Moon. Check the regolite story, check the Stormwind icebreaker mission story. No, you do not want to see the truth, you just like to please yourself with that warm and fuzzy feeling of being proud.

I get the feeling that the moon landing fakers are starting to wind down. With all the independent photography and research being done that clearly shows evidence of the moon landing, the ambiguity in which these hoaxers peddled their books and movies has gotten smaller and smaller. 10 years ago I used to run into at least one person a month who would bring this up. Now (as the comment by ColinWright shows) people are now MORE surpised to hear people once thought the moon landing was a hoax than the moon was a hoax =)

Re: The Apollo 11 Journey in Photographs

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Post by DanBC » Mon, Jul 23, 2012, 4:26 PM UTC

laserDinosaur wrote: post #15

ommunist wrote: post #10

It is unusual how many people still believe in this hoax. Dudes, this never happened. Only the Soviet robots did really something on the Moon. Check the regolite story, check the Stormwind icebreaker mission story. No, you do not want to see the truth, you just like to please yourself with that warm and fuzzy feeling of being proud.

I get the feeling that the moon landing fakers are starting to wind down. With all the independent photography and research being done that clearly shows evidence of the moon landing, the ambiguity in which these hoaxers peddled their books and movies has gotten smaller and smaller. 10 years ago I used to run into at least one person a month who would bring this up. Now (as the comment by ColinWright shows) people ar…

Some people will be more convinced that they are correct when you present more information to challenge their views.

It's a tricky problem - how do you convince someone that something is a useful, valid, thing to do if they think you're trying to harm them?

Re: The Apollo 11 Journey in Photographs

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Post by ommunist » Sun, Aug 05, 2012, 7:42 PM UTC

ColinWright wrote: post #12

ommunist wrote: post #10

It is unusual how many people still believe in this hoax. Dudes, this never happened. Only the Soviet robots did really something on the Moon. Check the regolite story, check the Stormwind icebreaker mission story. No, you do not want to see the truth, you just like to please yourself with that warm and fuzzy feeling of being proud.

Fascinating. I'd like to ask you a couple of questions: * How did they fake the video of the astronauts on the Moon? Please be careful to pay attention to explaining the arc of the dust they kick up. * How did they fake the open-loop back on the recordings where the delay exactly matches the orbit of the Moon, and in an apparently unanticipated analysis 40 years later it was possible to deduce from the recordings alo…

For the second one - there was an agreement with the USSR government about the Moon, so 'Luna-10' station could be used for that, or the earlier robot. With regard to the 1st one, I should check the available fx tech of that time. How shall you explain the founding of the intact Apollo housing (supposed to be burned) in the Atlantic ocean? Check this photo. http://www.warandpeace.ru/ru/reports/view/70866/ - illustration 17.