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Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by blablabla123 »

halyconWays wrote: post #33
ipaddr wrote: post #30

I went to the homepage for the first time. First post was someone saying they want to be a designer for the campaign that had Waltz name on it. Then you have Patton Oswald tell people never be friends with Nazis because they have Nazi friends. I decided to visit twitter homepage but it asked me to signin. I went to the homepage for Mastodon. It had comments about new science discoveries, tech, some politics but more…

I think Bluesky's content is largely defined by the crowd of people that left Twitter. Like Voat when Reddit had its embrace of censorship, only the other way around: opposite politics, and it's more based around being upset that perceived extremists are being given a platform.

Yeah I don't know, I was never a big tweeter although I used it at some point for networking. But eventually I didn't use it anymore, emptied my profile and it was largely left unused for years. Once Elon Musk went crazy I eventually deleted my account.

So I've tried Mastodon because I'm also interested in a service operated by a more neutral org but I found it too random. Bluesky seemed quite nice, kind of like a UX friendly Mastodon.

Most people I follow seem interested in talking about tech and not so much politics which I find quite refreshing. Also it's quite easy to onboard and enjoy the platform without having to make it a huge effort.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by shafyy »

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #40
halyconWays wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Bluesky's content is largely defined by the crowd of people that left Twitter. Like Voat when Reddit had its embrace of censorship, only the other way around: opposite politics, and it's more based around being upset that perceived extremists are being given a platform.

This is incidentally why Mastodon seems to be less bad now. That group of people went there first, but then Mastodon's user growth stalled by some strange coincidence. Then they didn't want to be on the one that was apparently in decline so more of them switched to Bluesky. Which is kind of sad because from a technical perspective Bluesky seems to have some advantages (provided they fully extricate any dependencies o…

> Whereas Mastodon/ActivityPub has some flaws that are going to cause real long-term problems if they're not addressed, e.g. tying accounts to a specific instance combined with the propensity for instances to ban other entire instances or ban small/new instances by default, which will have the unfortunate propensity for market concentration.

I don't think these are problems. Compare it to how email works nowadays, and it's very similar. At least you can easily move your Mastodon account to a new instance and there are built in mechanisms so that you're followers dont even notice your instance has changed, they still keep following you. And good luck running your own email server, you'll also get marked as spam by most. But still, email works and works well. So, no reason for Mastodon not to work.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

ipaddr wrote: post #30

I went to the homepage for the first time. First post was someone saying they want to be a designer for the campaign that had Waltz name on it. Then you have Patton Oswald tell people never be friends with Nazis because they have Nazi friends. I decided to visit twitter homepage but it asked me to signin. I went to the homepage for Mastodon. It had comments about new science discoveries, tech, some politics but more…

Twitter, Bluesky, Mastodon, Reddit, etc are all social networks; they are not specialized communities like HN is. It sounds like you're looking for a smaller specialized community moreso than a big social network.

That said, a social network's home page is rarely representative of the value most people get out of it, that's down to the networks and curation you set up yourself. I mean open up Youtube in an anonymous profile. It's all caps football reporting, all caps "challenges" from influencers, Russian, shorts of double-cropped old videos with 50m views, music videos of people unknown to me, etc. Nothing I'm interested in, and yet I frequent youtube when I'm signed in.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by matthewdgreen »

blablabla123 wrote: post #51
halyconWays wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Bluesky's content is largely defined by the crowd of people that left Twitter. Like Voat when Reddit had its embrace of censorship, only the other way around: opposite politics, and it's more based around being upset that perceived extremists are being given a platform.

Yeah I don't know, I was never a big tweeter although I used it at some point for networking. But eventually I didn't use it anymore, emptied my profile and it was largely left unused for years. Once Elon Musk went crazy I eventually deleted my account. So I've tried Mastodon because I'm also interested in a service operated by a more neutral org but I found it too random. Bluesky seemed quite nice, kind of like a UX…

This is inauguration week and a lot of things are happening. Many of those things impact tech. Last week my BlueSky was 10% politics and now it’s 100% politics, if you define stuff like “it is very bad that the CDC can no longer communicate about H5N1 infection data” to be politics.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by pityJuke »

mhh__ wrote: post #8
MattSayar wrote: post #5

I know it's a minority opinion with this crowd, but sports has such a large presence on X and I don't know why it's lagging moving to BlueSky. I like the categories on this site but "sports" doesn't even make the cut while "eSports" does.

In Britain at least I find that Bluesky is mainly populated by the kind of people who really want you to know that they don't like football

With that being said, during game time, I find matches & teams are beginning to appear on trending.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by openrisk »

briandear wrote: post #50
openrisk wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This can quickly change if the public sector ever wakes up and smells the coffee. Imagine if every city would run activitypub type servers and offer them to their own residents as local tax funded service. Its an entirely plausible scenario, cities are managing far more complex infrastructure. Suddenly you have the pull of the entire planet and resources to keep evolving and innovating the software stack. We have the…

So would the city government allow criticism of government officials? I specifically don’t want the government running anything like that.

What people say on such platforms would be down to charters, democratically agreed. Everything is in principle open to design so as to prevent abuse. So is the possibility of checks and balances, observers etc.

People abandoning their civic responsibilities is what delivered "government" (and practically everything else) to the oligarchs.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by tpm »

openrisk wrote: post #42
tpm wrote: post #36

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> I'm not sure why we are not all on Mastodon it's similiar content to this site. Mastodon is a nonprofit and a federated network with no single powerful entity marketing and managing it. It does not have enough pull.

This can quickly change if the public sector ever wakes up and smells the coffee. Imagine if every city would run activitypub type servers and offer them to their own residents as local tax funded service. Its an entirely plausible scenario, cities are managing far more complex infrastructure. Suddenly you have the pull of the entire planet and resources to keep evolving and innovating the software stack. We have the…

> and offer them to their own residents as local tax funded service. Its an entirely plausible scenario

It sadly isn't, if by this you mean that residents can create their profiles there and use it to post stuff. Because now every city is a social network operator that has to police the server.

But even if the city only had a server with accounts for the city admin and only posting city stuff, that by itself would be great.

> We have the cesspool social media that we have because society is forgeting what democracy and sovereignty even mean.

Maybe, but more specifically it's because social network operators refuse to police them properly. I have seen that scenario play out on a small non-commercial social network in the 00's and then countless times again: well-meaning people are too pacifist (at least online) and the rest is hands-off. Not very good people are always going to exploit weaknesses like that. And then it's too late, you can't put the cat back into the bag, the whole network is gone. And if the society as a whole doesn't act, well we are seeing what happens.

> One just hopes that the in-your-face possibility of better alternatives will tip the balance somewhere in the world and start the revolution that will help us out of this sorry period.

I don't think there will be a revolution. What I hope for is there will at least be a slow trickle of people into stuff like Mastodon, so that we leave behind the era where 99% of value was captured by facebook/instagram/tiktok/twitter.

Re: Show HN: I organized Bluesky feeds by categories and growth rankings

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Post by openrisk »

tpm wrote: post #59
openrisk wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This can quickly change if the public sector ever wakes up and smells the coffee. Imagine if every city would run activitypub type servers and offer them to their own residents as local tax funded service. Its an entirely plausible scenario, cities are managing far more complex infrastructure. Suddenly you have the pull of the entire planet and resources to keep evolving and innovating the software stack. We have the…

> and offer them to their own residents as local tax funded service. Its an entirely plausible scenario It sadly isn't, if by this you mean that residents can create their profiles there and use it to post stuff. Because now every city is a social network operator that has to police the server. But even if the city only had a server with accounts for the city admin and only posting city stuff, that by itself would be…

> every city is a social network operator that has to police the server

the "policing" problem (I think moderation is a better word) needs to be solved one way or another, there is no doubt about that. The question is what is the most democratic and economically viable way to do that. You need to find an organizational unit that embodies decentralization, has a stake in the matter and could realistically execute. Can't think of anything better that the city.

Plus, we don't really need a utopic perfect solution that works for everybody all the time. What the open source fediverse really needs at this point is a sustainable source of funding to reach more mass-market usability. People would always be free to fork and build their own quirky communities.

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