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Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by csomar » Thu, Jan 23, 2025, 4:59 AM UTC

ipdashc wrote: post #124

rconti wrote: post #7

> GFiber service will be available in parts of the metro area later this year. Nevada residents and business owners will be able to choose between Google Fiber’s plans with prices that haven’t changed since 2012 and speeds up to 8 gig. The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing. From the linked price page: 1gig: $70/mo 2gig: $100/mo 5gig: $125/mo 8 gi…

I feel silly asking, but what do you use 10gig for? That speed sounds insane; I get maybe 800mbps and I've basically never felt like the speed is too slow. Most consumer devices are still on gigabit Ethernet at the fastest, no - or am I just badly out of date? Heck, anywhere above a few gigs, I feel like you'd start getting bottlenecked by whatever's on the other end of the connection. Still, pretty cool to hear that…

Not 10 gig but I am on an apartment with 1gig down. It made a difference when I downloaded deepseek the other day. It took a few minutes instead of hours/days. I think if you have a family with a couple kids it can come in handy when everyone tries to connect online. Kids can be downloading games/streaming, you working and partner video-calling on high res.

It is not a necessity but a nicety.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by teractiveodular » Thu, Jan 23, 2025, 5:03 AM UTC

somanyphotons wrote: post #38

thrtythreeforty wrote: post #16

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I'm forced to conclude that it's actually making money, else they would have killed it by now. I have it - signed up the day it was available at my house. One of the few Google things I'm pretty sure will continue to exist.

Google is perfectly willing to shut down a profitable product

Any examples you'd care to point out? All the high-profile Google shutdowns I can think of either failed in the marketplace (Stadia, Plus) or were successful but not making money (Reader, Hangouts).

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by teractiveodular » Thu, Jan 23, 2025, 5:03 AM UTC

bagels wrote: post #42

thrtythreeforty wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm forced to conclude that it's actually making money, else they would have killed it by now. I have it - signed up the day it was available at my house. One of the few Google things I'm pretty sure will continue to exist.

They did kill it before. But it's back again.

Fiber was not killed in the cities where it had already launched. What's new is that they're expanding again.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by inejge » Thu, Jan 23, 2025, 5:13 AM UTC

astrange wrote: post #131

rsynnott wrote: post #89

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This seems to be A Thing; city centers get bad internet. In Dublin if you look at coverage maps, the whole central area is an island of VDSL and DOCSIS in a sea of FTTH. Not totally sure why.

It probably needs you to tear up the street and that's hard to get approved. (And while all Anglo countries are NIMBY, Ireland is the most NIMBY, which is why its population is lower now than in the 1800s.)

Ireland is the most NIMBY, which is why its population is lower now than in the 1800s

Uh, are you sure that you haven't disregarded the Great Libertarian Sociological Experiment of 1847 in your reasoning?

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by jcrben » Thu, Jan 23, 2025, 5:13 AM UTC

ddcc7 wrote: post #105

advarkcal wrote: post #83

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Have you considered Monkeybrains? For the price the service is fantastic, and with some of their new upgrades speeds are pretty good for most of SF. Caveat: I work from home so I keep my comcast subscription as a backup and have a router with automatic failover. I would say this is not worth it for most people and just Monkeybrains is sufficent.

I have the same issue, I'm in an area with underground utilities so Sonic isn't an option, it's just Comcast or Monkeybrains. But the problem with Monkeybrains is that they had me behind a IPv4 NAT with no IPv6, and when I asked them to change that, I ended up with very bad packet loss that their technical support couldn't resolve.

I use monkeybrains with the same ipv6 problem. One workaround is to run a VPN. Planning to switch but haven't gotten around to it

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by defrost » Thu, Jan 23, 2025, 5:24 AM UTC

inejge wrote: post #164

astrange wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It probably needs you to tear up the street and that's hard to get approved. (And while all Anglo countries are NIMBY, Ireland is the most NIMBY, which is why its population is lower now than in the 1800s.)

Ireland is the most NIMBY, which is why its population is lower now than in the 1800s Uh, are you sure that you haven't disregarded the Great Libertarian Sociological Experiment of 1847 in your reasoning?

  “[The Famine] is a punishment from God for an idle, ungrateful, and rebellious country; an indolent and un-self-reliant people. The Irish are suffering from an affliction of God’s providence.”

  “The judgment of God sent the calamity to teach the Irish a lesson. That calamity must not be too much mitigated. The greater evil with which we have to contend is not the physical evil of the famine, but the moral evil of the selfish, perverse and turbulent character of the Irish people.”

~ Sir Charles Trevelyan, 1st Baronet, Assistant Secretary to Her Majesty’s Treasury, 1847 (Knighted, 1848, for overseeing famine relief)

https://youtu.be/yvKTG8pE_70?t=526

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by silisili » Thu, Jan 23, 2025, 5:26 AM UTC

cheshire137 wrote: post #13

Is it really? Still waiting for it to be available everywhere in Nashville after they started here nearly a decade ago.

Do y'all have fiber at all? Most if not all of remote middle TN from Cookeville to Winchester has cheap FTTH. I live in unincorporated acreage, and was surprised they just came out this year to run a fiber line to my house. 57/mo for symmetrical gig. Goes up to 8, but that's a couple hundred.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by deepsun » Thu, Jan 23, 2025, 5:27 AM UTC

rconti wrote: post #7

> GFiber service will be available in parts of the metro area later this year. Nevada residents and business owners will be able to choose between Google Fiber’s plans with prices that haven’t changed since 2012 and speeds up to 8 gig. The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing. From the linked price page: 1gig: $70/mo 2gig: $100/mo 5gig: $125/mo 8 gi…

What is "gig"?

I'm familiar with Gbps and GB/s, one is 8x of another. But what is "gig"?

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by kelnos » Thu, Jan 23, 2025, 5:31 AM UTC

advarkcal wrote: post #83

arebop wrote: post #21

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A lot of people lately are complaining about a lack of price stability, it seems like a good angle. Also as an SF resident with no realistic alternative to Comcast cable, I'd appreciate a provider who didn't try to sneak price increases onto my bill a couple of times a year. In a healthy market I wouldn't expect big margins for sellers, but honestly if someone's making insane profits by selling me a product or servic…

Have you considered Monkeybrains? For the price the service is fantastic, and with some of their new upgrades speeds are pretty good for most of SF. Caveat: I work from home so I keep my comcast subscription as a backup and have a router with automatic failover. I would say this is not worth it for most people and just Monkeybrains is sufficent.

What kind of speeds? When I last contacted them (maybe 3 years ago?) they said they could only guarantee 35Mbps symmetrical, but that most people see more like 80Mbps. That's... not good at all.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Post by cwalv » Thu, Jan 23, 2025, 5:32 AM UTC

cheshire137 wrote: post #13

Is it really? Still waiting for it to be available everywhere in Nashville after they started here nearly a decade ago.

That's how it is in Vegas presently: CenturyLink has fiber service but it's scattered around unpredictability, and in areas where it's not available it may never be. Hopefully Google fiber (un)availability doesn't overlap too much, but I expect that it will.