Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

fiber.googleblog.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

151–160 of 232 posts

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#151

Post by kxrm »

DontchaKnowit wrote: post #137
rconti wrote: post #7

> GFiber service will be available in parts of the metro area later this year. Nevada residents and business owners will be able to choose between Google Fiber’s plans with prices that haven’t changed since 2012 and speeds up to 8 gig. The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing. From the linked price page: 1gig: $70/mo 2gig: $100/mo 5gig: $125/mo 8 gi…

Google fiber is also full of shit when they say their prices havent changed because I was paying like 25 a month for 1g fiber in 2019 ain kansas city and now I pay 70 a month for the same service

AFAIK, GFiber has always been $70/month for 1gig.

Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20131218122258/https://fiber.goo...

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#152

Post by bigstrat2003 »

anonymousiam wrote: post #111
smitelli wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In RTP NC, GFiber's $70 pricing beats equivalent speed plans from the other two symmetric fiber providers in the area, AT&T and Spectrum (if you live on the right streets). It's not _dirt_ cheap, but it's the cheapest we can get. (Oh, also if you request a /48 IPv6 prefix, you'll get it. Never had that work on AT&T's $90.75-after-fees plan.)

I've got a /48 IPv6 subnet with CenturyLink 1G/1G. It's a 6rd tunnel, but it's provided by the same ISP. Hopefully they'll go native soon, but it may not matter if I switch to Google Fiber. My 1G/1G CenturyLink plan is $65/mo, which beats Google's $70 plan for the same thing in the same market, but I've had this plan for 5 years and it is no longer available.

I'm not familiar with 6rd, do you get actual routable IPs that you can use (to host services, etc)? Or is it just some kind of NAT equivalent?

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#154

Post by sfilmeyer »

macshome wrote: post #145
ipdashc wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel silly asking, but what do you use 10gig for? That speed sounds insane; I get maybe 800mbps and I've basically never felt like the speed is too slow. Most consumer devices are still on gigabit Ethernet at the fastest, no - or am I just badly out of date? Heck, anywhere above a few gigs, I feel like you'd start getting bottlenecked by whatever's on the other end of the connection. Still, pretty cool to hear that…

For a lot of people the benefits show up because they have more devices sharing that connection. Before our kids moved to school we had 5 people on our home connection. Each with multiple devices, all trying to work or play games or stream content at the same time. For one person with one computer it’s probably delightful overkill. For a modern family unit it can make everyone happy.

But even for your 5 people, a gigabit is plenty to all stream content at the same time, right? How often are all 5 people trying to download a 5 gigabyte file at the same time such that they collectively really benefit from more than a gigabit?

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#155

Post by jhloa2 »

anonymousiam wrote: post #110

I've got a place in Vegas that's presently served by CenturyLink. It has 1G/1G symmetrical fiber at a guaranteed fixed price of $65/mo. 8G is appealing. So far I haven't seen a map or a timeline of where/when. I signed up for status emails from Google over a year ago.

They just raised the price on my fixed for life deal from Century Link. If you look back, there's nothing in the documentation/terms that actually claimed it was for life. Super shady on their end and I'm going to switch to Google Fiber once they're finished installing it in my neighborhood (they're currently in the installation process)

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#156

Post by throwaway314155 »

dtaht wrote: post #150
throwaway314155 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In 2017, basically all the Google Fiber software teams went on hiatus (mine included). What does a hiatus entail in this case? Did these teams all just stop working on Fiber stuff and sit around all day hoping they would be given something to do?

They laid us all off. They had huge plans - millions of users! Then they intersected reality in KC where all people wanted was 5Mbit service and free TV... There were many, many people working to perfect the settop box for example. We got fq_codel running on the wifi, we never got anywhere on the shaper, the plan was to move 1+m units of that (horrible integrated chip the comcerto C2000 - it didn´t have coherent cach…

That's fascinating actually. You should consider doing a full blog writeup if that's something you're into.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#157

Post by mjevans »

variaga wrote: post #101
sounds wrote: post #2

A common complaint I hear at defcon and other cons in vegas is that the hotel internet is terrible. Hopefully good internet service comes as a result of this?

I can think of two reasons why it wouldn't (benign) peak-to-average problem - I'll go ahead and just assume that defcon attendees use a lot more internet bandwidth than the average Vegas-goer, so during defcon the network is overwhelmed, but the rest of the year the capacity is adequate. Upgrading the links to satisfy the peak (defcon) traffic load costs the casinos significant money, but gives minuscule benefit sinc…

It's worse.

Event venues AND anyplace that might EVER have expense account holding business travelers just want to charge for it. Even if fiber literally rolled right up to the side of the building, it'd be resold by either the hotel or a 3rd party vendor with a focus on profit rather than just being good.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#158

Post by manquer »

ipdashc wrote: post #124
rconti wrote: post #7

> GFiber service will be available in parts of the metro area later this year. Nevada residents and business owners will be able to choose between Google Fiber’s plans with prices that haven’t changed since 2012 and speeds up to 8 gig. The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing. From the linked price page: 1gig: $70/mo 2gig: $100/mo 5gig: $125/mo 8 gi…

I feel silly asking, but what do you use 10gig for? That speed sounds insane; I get maybe 800mbps and I've basically never felt like the speed is too slow. Most consumer devices are still on gigabit Ethernet at the fastest, no - or am I just badly out of date? Heck, anywhere above a few gigs, I feel like you'd start getting bottlenecked by whatever's on the other end of the connection. Still, pretty cool to hear that…

So many resources are large , the last deepseek model was 700Gb, games can easily run into hundreds of gbs these days. Just updating Xcode can be 10Gb

High speed internet opens up new use cases open up , for example, if I had a 10 gig symmetrical connection I could run my own self hosted CI runner for free* with my old hardware lying about and recoup my investment.

Any sort of spatial computing will need lot more speed and/or local assets to be useful - with today’s speed all we can reliably get is what Facebook is doing with metaverse .

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#159

Post by rockwotj »

rayiner wrote: post #148
ipdashc wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I feel silly asking, but what do you use 10gig for? That speed sounds insane; I get maybe 800mbps and I've basically never felt like the speed is too slow. Most consumer devices are still on gigabit Ethernet at the fastest, no - or am I just badly out of date? Heck, anywhere above a few gigs, I feel like you'd start getting bottlenecked by whatever's on the other end of the connection. Still, pretty cool to hear that…

I’ve got 10 gig with 5 millisecond ping to Ashburn (Comcast’s gigabit x10, so it’s a full 10 gig port to the head end, not PON) and web surfing still sucks because JavaScript.

Are you surfing the web on a toaster? I only run into network bottlenecks or pages that suck because it loads tons of ads, which isn’t a javascript issue really. Yeah its not Wasm fast, and JS has some terrible stuff from a language perspective, but I don’t blame a slow web on Javascript. Certainly not for everyday browsing

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

#160

Post by dhosek »

cletus wrote: post #100

Speaking as a former Google Fiber software engineer, I'm honestly surprised this is still around. In 2017, basically all the Google Fiber software teams went on hiatus (mine included). I can't speak to the timing or rationale but my theory is that the Google leadership couldn't decide if the future of Internet was wired or wireless and a huge investment in wired may be invalidated if the future Internet was wired so…

I was thinking the same thing, not to mention that when Google Fiber was first announced, I was happy to be all in on Google for services but now, I’d be hesitant to use them for anything more than I’m already tied to.
Post reply on HN