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Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm forced to conclude that it's actually making money, else they would have killed it by now. I have it - signed up the day it was available at my house. One of the few Google things I'm pretty sure will continue to exist.

They did kill it before. But it's back again.

GOOGLE: There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is slightly alive.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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post #2

A common complaint I hear at defcon and other cons in vegas is that the hotel internet is terrible. Hopefully good internet service comes as a result of this?

A recent LTT video attributes it to hotels colluding so that one's Wi-Fi isn't too much better than the others. https://youtu.be/sYXh0AdBw-I?t=879

I'm gonna need a source on that one beyond LTT just going "the hotels on the strip collude with each other".

Convention wireless is a pain in the ass as a whole, and I've seen it both from venue-hosted networks and privately-operated-on-site networks being deployed as an overlay.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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Meanwhile, I'm paying 120/month for 150MB down, 75 up to my rural telco-op, and compared to the satellite internet I had before, I'm happy to be paying it.

I have this wacky idea of community fiber kiosks where you stop to fast-download large files/torrents/data dumps Any opinions on this from a user experience point of view?

So I’d take my expensive, heavy PS5, unplug it, and carry it to a download kiosk? And then wait 2-3 hours for a patch because it might be server-side throttled? And I’d also need a display of sorts to monitor progress.

I don’t think the idea is going to sell in this day and age.

For a laptop I could just occupy a coffee shop WiFi, and get coffee.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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post #7

> GFiber service will be available in parts of the metro area later this year. Nevada residents and business owners will be able to choose between Google Fiber’s plans with prices that haven’t changed since 2012 and speeds up to 8 gig. The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing. From the linked price page: 1gig: $70/mo 2gig: $100/mo 5gig: $125/mo 8 gi…

And then there's my parents, who live in a rural area and have a tiny fiber ISP charging $70/mo for 50mbps. That's not missing a zero...

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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post #7

> GFiber service will be available in parts of the metro area later this year. Nevada residents and business owners will be able to choose between Google Fiber’s plans with prices that haven’t changed since 2012 and speeds up to 8 gig. The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing. From the linked price page: 1gig: $70/mo 2gig: $100/mo 5gig: $125/mo 8 gi…

For what it’s worth it’s not even remotely a factor of price/bandwidth. The capex of laying the fiber and doing the last-mile construction is huge and highly variable depending on existing fiber, construction costs, regulatory requirements, etc. What bandwidth they can provide is also due to these requirements, and if they’re profitable as well.

Once they actually get the service in place the final price-per-gbps is more a factor of physics than of corporate greed.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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post #7

> GFiber service will be available in parts of the metro area later this year. Nevada residents and business owners will be able to choose between Google Fiber’s plans with prices that haven’t changed since 2012 and speeds up to 8 gig. The author of the press release is under the mistaken belief that unchanged broadband pricing is a good thing. From the linked price page: 1gig: $70/mo 2gig: $100/mo 5gig: $125/mo 8 gi…

In RTP NC, GFiber's $70 pricing beats equivalent speed plans from the other two symmetric fiber providers in the area, AT&T and Spectrum (if you live on the right streets). It's not _dirt_ cheap, but it's the cheapest we can get. (Oh, also if you request a /48 IPv6 prefix, you'll get it. Never had that work on AT&T's $90.75-after-fees plan.)

Huh I was able to get a /60 ipv6 prefix from my ATT fiber just fine, and it has been available since circa 2016.

Re: Google Fiber is coming to Las Vegas

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post #2

A common complaint I hear at defcon and other cons in vegas is that the hotel internet is terrible. Hopefully good internet service comes as a result of this?

The largest hotels around, like Caesars Palace, might have 4000 rooms.

So if they had, for example, a 10 Gbps link for the building - that's only 2.5 Mbps per room if everyone wants to use it. Fine when 98% of guests don't want to use it, totally inadequate if all your guests want to use it.

And as I understand things, if someone's offering you a 10 gigabit link for $150 they're relying on you only using it a tiny % of the time. So if you put your 4000 room hotel on a Google Fiber link you'll probably run into the secret download limits after a day or two. And the price for a non-oversold 10-gigabit link seems to be "call our enterprise sales team for pricing"

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