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Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Post by cmdli »

bko wrote: post #230
rappatic wrote: post #164

I think his original sentence was absolutely deserved—even though the charge of hiring a contract killer to assassinate his business competition may have been dropped, I think it's clear he did many things in the same vein. Even if you support his original pursuit of a free and open online marketplace, I think most people would agree he took it a bridge too far in the end. That said, I do think he absolutely deserved…

Ross Ulbricht was not sentenced for murder-for-hire charges. Those allegations were used to deny him bail and influenced public perception, they were not part of his formal conviction or sentencing. He was convicted on non-violent charges related to operating the Silk Road website, including drug distribution, computer hacking, and money laundering. Does this change your opinion of sentencing being well-deserved?

He was found during sentencing to be guilty of hiring a hit on a competitor using a preponderance of evidence (lower then presumption of innocence). While this is a lower standard than a conviction, it is still a higher standard than most apply in public discourse.

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Post by lettergram »

nadermx wrote: post #174
rappatic wrote: post #164

I think his original sentence was absolutely deserved—even though the charge of hiring a contract killer to assassinate his business competition may have been dropped, I think it's clear he did many things in the same vein. Even if you support his original pursuit of a free and open online marketplace, I think most people would agree he took it a bridge too far in the end. That said, I do think he absolutely deserved…

What has always sat odd with me regarding this, is we don't truly know the extent of the fbi's corruption in this. They stole, so it's not hard to imagine they planted evidence too.

As part of the FBI conviction they were accused of tampering user logs and taking over accounts. So… literally none of it can be used as evidence imo.

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Post by timewizard »

mplewis wrote: post #180
BurningFrog wrote: post #92

Keep in mind that he spent 11 years locked up. He's not getting off lightly!

What do you mean "lightly?" He ran an illegal drug market and tried to assassinate a competitor. We gave him the punishment that society has determined one should receive for this. Revoking his punishment is "light."

The judge issued the punishment at their sole discretion. The legislature sets the laws often without any input from the constituency.

Meanwhile a sizable campaign has materialized around this case and many people do feel he has done enough time and should be free without any restrictions

Re: Ross Ulbricht granted a full pardon

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Post by PKop »

Since no one is posting it, here's Trump Truth Social post on the matter:

"I just called the mother of Ross William Ulbricht to let her know that in honor of her and the Libertarian Movement, which supported me so strongly, it was my pleasure to have just signed a full and unconditional pardon of her son, Ross. The scum that worked to convict him were some of the same lunatics who were involved in the modern day weaponization of government against me. He was given two life sentences, plus 40 years. Ridiculous!"

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Post by ethagnawl »

zoklet-enjoyer wrote: post #121
steveBK123 wrote: post #111

At the same time he is threatening to tariff China 10% due to their responsibility for fentanyl, lol

Fentanyl wasn't big yet when Silk Road was around. And besides, people were buying straight from China off the clearnet

I knew people who were wringing it out of medicated patches and sniffing it out of Afrin bottles during high school in the 90s. I also knew someone who ODd and died from tainted/fake pills they bought from one of The Silk Road's (immediate) successors.

Some number of people also OD on "traditional" street drugs every day. So, this is really not a sound argument.

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