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Re: Concise list of upcoming Coursera courses by month

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This really makes me wish they would leave content up rather than following the cohort model -- there are a handful of classes I'd like to take, but their current model forces users to basically adhere to the university schedule (they have 4x more courses starting in september than any other month). Udacity made the switch after a couple months of trying the cohort model -- hope Coursera considers the same.

I agree. Over the Summer I wanted to do the Python course with my son (9 years old) but it doesn't start until October, when he'll be back at school. Shame. Doing the Learn Python the Hard Way with him instead

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post #11
post #9

This really makes me wish they would leave content up rather than following the cohort model -- there are a handful of classes I'd like to take, but their current model forces users to basically adhere to the university schedule (they have 4x more courses starting in september than any other month). Udacity made the switch after a couple months of trying the cohort model -- hope Coursera considers the same.

I agree. Over the Summer I wanted to do the Python course with my son (9 years old) but it doesn't start until October, when he'll be back at school. Shame. Doing the Learn Python the Hard Way with him instead

I just wanted to let you know that I think that's awesome.

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post #11
post #9

This really makes me wish they would leave content up rather than following the cohort model -- there are a handful of classes I'd like to take, but their current model forces users to basically adhere to the university schedule (they have 4x more courses starting in september than any other month). Udacity made the switch after a couple months of trying the cohort model -- hope Coursera considers the same.

I agree. Over the Summer I wanted to do the Python course with my son (9 years old) but it doesn't start until October, when he'll be back at school. Shame. Doing the Learn Python the Hard Way with him instead

Very cool. Good luck with this! Wish I could join you guys.

Re: Concise list of upcoming Coursera courses by month

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So I've only been tangentially involved with these online education companies, what makes Coursera classes so much worse than Udacity?

A few things: * Udacity really tries to learn how to exploit the on-line medium well. Coursera tosses courses not that different from a capture of the normal university course on-line. Coursera instructors have minimal support in how to put together a good on-line course. This comes across in a huge number of ways (as with Khan, you're being tutored, not lectured at, with tight integration of questions/videos, etc.).…

I'm thinking the different models will work for some classes/ students, and not for others.

I just signed up for the "Fantasy and Science Fiction" class on Coursera. The professor seems to be intelligent and well-spoken. And the traditional lecture style works for me because I'll be listening while at work, and won't be able to have the video onscreen.

On the other hand, the intro video for the physics class on Udacity seems very engaging. The teacher is moving about, showing experiments, and will be travelling around the world, interviewing experts while teaching the class.

It makes me think about the evolution of writing from the stage to the screen. When actors were confined to a stage, dialogue was just between a few people sitting in a static scene - actions were kept to a minimum. The story was divided into distinct acts for set changes. With modern films, actors perform complex actions while speaking, we can have close-ups to show details, video and audio tracks can be separated, we can jump from a living room to Space battle and back again in a couple of seconds.

Udacity seems to have made that realisation - that they're not confined to that single medium shot of the desk. They can make material more engaging, incorporate other media, props; instantly change locations, or teach through visual demonstration rather than speech.

I'm not very technical, but I did try the AI class - it felt a little dumbed down to me so I lost interest.

It will be interesting to see what other websites and services people come up with to add value to online education. I'm thinking of things like:

* Study group sites: people meet in cafes or libraries to go through class materials together. To work on class projects, or build business ideas together. You could have people with complimentary knowledge meeting up to collaborate on projects.

* Career guidance: You could do a test to determine what your strengths and interests are, and the site would give you career and education options - then select courses for you to complete with certification.

* Education portfolio: A student may want to have a collection of their best essays and projects to demonstrate their knowledge to gain employment or an internship.

* Research projects: There could be a site which shows the premise of student's research topics. Labs or real-world universities could headhunt people with promising ideas.

Actually, what I really want out of these online universities is an archive of endangered courses. A lot of people seem to want pure technical skills at the moment. But there are so many niche courses in the arts and humanities which are difficult to maintain in real-world universities, and lot of them go extinct.

I hope one of these sites reaches out to professors who are no longer teaching, and get all of their coursework online. I want to have entire courses on, say, a small tribe in Papua New Guinea, concepts of gender and sexuality in some fallen civilisation.

And I also want to have courses from different cultures and languages subtitled with English - bush survival knowledge of indigenous Australians; or old Japanese art techniques.

Re: Concise list of upcoming Coursera courses by month

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post #11
post #9

This really makes me wish they would leave content up rather than following the cohort model -- there are a handful of classes I'd like to take, but their current model forces users to basically adhere to the university schedule (they have 4x more courses starting in september than any other month). Udacity made the switch after a couple months of trying the cohort model -- hope Coursera considers the same.

I agree. Over the Summer I wanted to do the Python course with my son (9 years old) but it doesn't start until October, when he'll be back at school. Shame. Doing the Learn Python the Hard Way with him instead

LPTHW is excellent, although if you are interested in doing something with videos and the structure of a course, Udacity does use python, and their courses are available whenever you want. You could do CS 101 with him there (even after finishing LPTHW).

Also, you are awesome.

Re: Concise list of upcoming Coursera courses by month

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It's a shame the offerings for music are so small (limited just to "Listening to World Music"). I bet I'm not the only person who would leap at the chance to take a top notch music theory class.

A music theory course would be particularly awesome with some nice online tools. (Something like mitx's interactive lab, but for music).

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Personally, I'm rooting for the open software/open content model of edX, or the very high quality pedagogy of Khan Academy and Udacity. The Coursera courses I've taken were, by and large, fairly mediocre, and the company is hyper-secretive and hyper-aggressive. I'm worried it might turn into the Microsoft (of the eighties) of education -- grab the market, flood it with mediocrity, and outmaneuver everyone from a busi…

What Coursera courses have you taken?

I've taken the game theory course, and the second run of machine learning, and both were fine.

I've also taken Udacity's courses on programming a robotic car and on cryptography, and am currently doing the second run of Caltech's machine learning course, so when I say the Coursera courses were fine, I do have some other offerings to compare to.

Re: Concise list of upcoming Coursera courses by month

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post #9

This really makes me wish they would leave content up rather than following the cohort model -- there are a handful of classes I'd like to take, but their current model forces users to basically adhere to the university schedule (they have 4x more courses starting in september than any other month). Udacity made the switch after a couple months of trying the cohort model -- hope Coursera considers the same.

Yes, this is why I prefer Udacity, too.

By all means Codeacademy should continue with the scheduled courses and deadlines, there are benefits to that. Just leave the content and discussions available for those who want to self-study at their own pace and convenience. Perhaps only make the certificates available to those who take the class on schedule.

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