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Re: I Met Paul Graham Once

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Post by dang »

hnthrowaway6543 wrote: post #297
jrflowers wrote: post #283

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You can't attack other users here, no matter how wrong they are or you feel they are.

You've been posting flamewar-style comments in other places too. That's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for, and we end up having to ban this sort of account, so please stop.

Actually I did ban you, but I reversed that after posting a warning to the other user. It seemed fairer to either ban both of you or neither.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

Also—please don't create accounts to break HN's rules with. It will eventually get your main account banned as well.

Re: I Met Paul Graham Once

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Post by dang »

jrflowers wrote: post #385
hnthrowaway6543 wrote: post #297

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait, and being aggressive with other users? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

We've already had to ask you this several times. If you keep doing it, we're going to end up having to ban the account.

If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.

Re: I Met Paul Graham Once

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Post by HDThoreaun »

nathan_compton wrote: post #692
coderc wrote: post #104

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It seems to me that prigs, as defined in pg's article, are just jumping on the transgender issue because it's an easy way for them to enforce rules. From my understanding, having read both articles, PG might say that the prigs have chosen to ride the lgbt movement. The problem is not with the lgbt movement itself. Unfortunately, this gives the movement a bad reputation. Some prigs aren't lgbt people at all, but they…

Prigs really aren't that big of a deal. Like literally who cares what they are up to?

They lost the Dems the election. “She’s for them” was by far trumps most successful ad according to polling

Re: I Met Paul Graham Once

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Post by itsoktocry »

enragedcacti wrote: post #414
itsoktocry wrote: post #381

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So a person you knew personally for years asked for your respect and understanding of an extremely difficult and personal decision, and you thought "Wow, I didn't care about this 5 minutes ago but now I've decided to get really bitter and vindictive about it"

Can you read?

I don't care what my coworkers wear or who they screw. Not my business.

When it bleeds over into forcing me to alter reality, yes, I have an issue.

Re: I Met Paul Graham Once

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Post by _yb2s »

gunian wrote: post #655
_yb2s wrote: post #608

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> operation paperclip would beg to differ Operation paperclip? A huge number of scientists and engineers unable to accomplish much under an authoritarian regime, but then driving massive innovation and discovery when freed from it, is exactly my point. Even when employing brilliant creative people authoritarians will always setup a work culture and organization fundamentally incompatible with innovation where traits…

They did accomplish a lot you just don't hear about it because history is written by the victor. Think about the numbers it took to defeat them: USSR, USA, British Empire, French Empire, and China. The reason the scientists were gobbled up by the US and USSR is precisely because of the knowledge they developed during and why everyone else was hanged. One can argue a lot of the advancements made until the era of compu…

I also wanted to add that although I chose a specific example from WWII, I agree with you that this dynamic I am taking about ended up not being a decisive factor in the war.

I would argue that this dynamic was one reason we got the bomb first- and that the leadership and culture of the Manhattan project was uniquely effective, and the culture persists today in the USA national labs to great effect, but the bomb also happened too late to be a factor.

Re: I Met Paul Graham Once

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Post by crackercrews »

foldr wrote: post #750
crackercrews wrote: post #716

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As others have suggested I just avoid pronouns. This seems to be a common approach.

Seems like a practical solution. So what’s the problem?

Probably that gender ideology played a sizable role in getting Trump re-elected. It was the topic of his most popular ad, and IIRC the plurality of swing state voters said it was the most important issue for them.

So getting people to use preferred pronouns was a bit of a Pyrrhic victory in my book.

Re: I Met Paul Graham Once

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Post by HDThoreaun »

spokaneplumb wrote: post #242
inglor_cz wrote: post #223

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"Hardcore anti trans-activists on the right would like to make life so miserable for transpeople as to essentially eliminate them from public life entirely." You may be right, but the anti-trans backlash in the context of the anti-woke backlash is much wider than just a few hardcore anti-trans activists on the far right. And it mostly revolves around two issues: a. Very young kids being treated in invasive or hard-to…

Those two things already barely exist. I’m skeptical it’s possible, in a nation of hundreds of millions, to get them much closer to not existing than they already are. So if those are the parts really bothering people… it sure seems like a case of looking for something to be upset about, in which case attempting to address their grievances won’t help. Or, a case of being told by people who are exaggerating the situat…

This is not how politics works. Politics is about spectacle, not facts. In order to turn people pro-trans the movement needs to come out emphatically against those two things. Make a spectacle out of it. “We’re just like you” consistently works

Re: I Met Paul Graham Once

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Post by chlodwig »

brandon272 wrote: post #770
countarthur wrote: post #751

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I agree with absolutely everything you've said here! Just my alternative conclusion is: you can't fix anything by compelling people to play along with someone else's delusion, whether the source is social, psychological, biochemical, sexual, whatever.

A "delusion" would be looking down and seeing a penis where a vagina exists. There is nothing delusional about understanding and acknowledging a difference between your identity and biological sex and seeking alignment between the two, in fact, it's a pretty rational approach versus the alternative of living in permanent misery. Just because we cannot see the physical manifestation of suffering or understand someone'…

What is "gender identity"? What is the evidence that "gender identity" exists, outside of my identity as a sexed being (ie the influence of hormones on my brain and psychological development, the knowledge of my own body)? If such a phenomena as "gender identity" exists outside of biological sex, why redefine words like "she" and "woman", which have always referred to biological sex, instead of coming up with new words to refer to gender identity?

Re: I Met Paul Graham Once

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Post by HDThoreaun »

yread wrote: post #295
inglor_cz wrote: post #223

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"Hardcore anti trans-activists on the right would like to make life so miserable for transpeople as to essentially eliminate them from public life entirely." You may be right, but the anti-trans backlash in the context of the anti-woke backlash is much wider than just a few hardcore anti-trans activists on the far right. And it mostly revolves around two issues: a. Very young kids being treated in invasive or hard-to…

I don't get why is there so much energy wasted on these non issues: > a. Very young kids being treated in invasive or hard-to-revert ways on flimsy evidence. Leave it to the doctors/counsellors/psychologists and parents. They know best. If my kids wanted to change their gender I would sure appreciate if the state wasn't making it any more difficult. > b. People with male musculature competing in women's sports league…

Just anecdata but my sister was encouraged to change her gender by multiple different therapists. She later “outgrew” that for lack of a better term and has emphatically told me that listening to them was a mistake. Sometimes parents know best idk.

Re: I Met Paul Graham Once

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dang wrote: post #782
jrflowers wrote: post #385

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Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments and flamebait, and being aggressive with other users? You've unfortunately been doing it repeatedly. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for. We've already had to ask you this several times. If you keep doing it, we're going to end up having to ban the account. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and t…

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