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Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by latexr »

jf22 wrote: post #110
latexr wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tell that to Jadav Payeng, who planted a forest by himself. He accomplished, on his own, more for the good of the world than most communities on Facebook ever will. https://interestingengineering.com/science/jadav-payeng-the-...

Eh, that's improvement, but the world didn't change because of a small forest.

You (and your parent comment) said “make the world a better place”, not “change” it. Very few things change the world meaningfully.

And the point stands: what he did was more relevant than most (if not all) Facebook communities will ever accomplish.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by coldpie »

robertlagrant wrote: post #108
coldpie wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everyone agrees this is an uphill battle. What I'm saying is that's a boring reason not to do something you believe in.

> Everyone agrees this is an uphill battle No, most people don't care about having this battle - that's the point. If there's no demonstrable reason to leave (e.g. "former president got banned from major platform, so go to new platform") then the - valid, if personally boring to you - point is: how will you persuade people to leave it?

Good question, let's try to answer it. Suppose OP believes they have a serviceable replacement in place. What arguments could they use to convince their communities to switch to it? Here's some ideas:

- No ads.

- Free, even for business-use.

- No algorithm interfering with visibility.

- It's usable by community members who do not have a Facebook account, for whatever reason.

- Allows for more free-form content.

- More choices for content delivery format & notifications (say, email, text message, newsletter links).

Maybe you can come up with some. What would you find to be a convincing argument to switch to a community-owned organization platform instead of Facebook?

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by SiempreViernes »

BaudouinVH wrote: post #24
tgirod wrote: post #5

Maybe have a look at mobilizon : https://joinmobilizon.org/en/ Never had the opportunity to test it, but it's been developped by the fine folks of framasoft as an alternative to facebook for community/event organization. Might fit the bill for you.

Indico is a not-framasoft open-source made in CERN event organisation solution : https://getindico.io/

Not sure that the intention is to organise a seminar series...

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by SiempreViernes »

1oooqooq wrote: post #29
BaudouinVH wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indico is a not-framasoft open-source made in CERN event organisation solution : https://getindico.io/

> main features: > Multi-granular tree-based protection scheme that will drain users from Facebook instantly! i can already see the flood of people coming. /s

Honestly, to me the main feature is that people tend to upload their slides to indico hosted conferences, but that's more of a cultural feature.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by inanutshellus »

* Look into Diaspora. (https://diasporafoundation.org/). Upside: It's basically a self-hosted facebook. Really cool project. Downside: Unlike facebook, there's no fake/pushed content so it tended to feel stale.

* Look into hosting a forum (e.g. phpBB). Forums are excellent because they don't lose old information like facebook does. When someone says "Hey what's the policy on dogs?" three years later I can search "dogs" and find the answer. Downside: They're not pretty, not full of pictures and no infinite scrollingz. sadge alfababies. Kidding aside, if you do try a forum, be sure to not offer a bunch of niche subtopics. The more subtopics the more stale the forum feels overall. Just stick to one main topic until someone asks for a second.

* IRC chat. I hosted an IRC group for several years at work and it worked great. We only killed it when we decided to move to an enterprise communication app.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by jf22 »

latexr wrote: post #131
jf22 wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh, that's improvement, but the world didn't change because of a small forest.

You (and your parent comment) said “make the world a better place”, not “change” it. Very few things change the world meaningfully. And the point stands: what he did was more relevant than most (if not all) Facebook communities will ever accomplish.

Splitting hairs.

If you use a platform nobody uses to try and change the world you won't change it just like if you tried to plant trees without using seeds.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by latexr »

zdragnar wrote: post #106
latexr wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tell that to Jadav Payeng, who planted a forest by himself. He accomplished, on his own, more for the good of the world than most communities on Facebook ever will. https://interestingengineering.com/science/jadav-payeng-the-...

Rural Facebook communities aren't trying to change the world. They're there for light conversation, gossip and organizing get-togethers. It's important to note that Jadav didn't get other people to change and join his crusade before it happened. He merely went out and did what he wanted. People were inspired by seeing it happen. People aren't going to be inspired by yet another social network touting federation and o…

> This whole conversation is very strange to me indeed.

Because you’re not engaging with the point?

For starters, the original claim was to “make the world a better place”, not “change” it. Beyond that, the point of my reply was to show that it is indeed possible to make the world better without communicating with anyone else (contrary to the original claim).

Anything else is your own addition.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by zer8k »

dingnuts wrote: post #79
javier123454321 wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you talking about his role censoring for the current, or for the former admin? His flip flopping shows such a lack of character. However, being selectively outraged because this time he is doing it for someone you disagree with, which a lot of people are, reveals the real motives.

ok so where do those who have been consistently mad at the people variously in power going back to 2016 or even 2008 go to complain? non-partisan free speech believers exist

People are gonna stay upset for quite a while. The billion dollar election manipulation campaign spanning Reddit/Tiktok/Youtube/Television was extremely effective. It convinced a very, very specific kind of person that the by-the-numbers worst candidate in modern history was going to win in an absolute landslide.

It will be years before these people realize how much the media was controlled from 2020-2024 specifically in favor of one political party. For a lot of people this was the first time it was extremely obvious and going back to Bush and Obama social media and the internet in general weren't considered "serious" political campaign locations. I certainly dont remember either Bush's or Obama's election being so insanely partisan to the point of calling one party Nazis. Of course there was vitriol but it was so tame compared to today.

Re: Ask HN: Organize local communities without Facebook?

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Post by danap »

Here is list of available software from my hosting company, $150/yr, for Forums, and Social Networking. Another I had on my own server was Citadel, (citadel.org).

Good luck, because most people use there cell phones now days and a lot of sw like those listed are just not meant for that format.

Forums:

phpBB - phpbb.com SMF - simplemachines.org MyBB - mybb.com bbPress - bbpress.org XMB - xmbforum2.com Flarum - flarum.org ElkArte - elkarte.net FUDforum - fudforum.org miniBB - minibb.com TidyBB - tidybb.co.uk Flatboard - flatboard.org

Social Networking:

pH7Builder - ph7builder.com Jcow - jcow.net Open Source Social Network - opensource-socialnetwork.org HumHub - humhub.org Family Connections - familycms.com Elgg 6 - elgg.org

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