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Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by sureIy »

lxgr wrote: post #185
stavros wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a difference between "my specific thing works" and "all such things work". Not all eSIMs are transferable.

Yes, but that's a problem of bad network operators, not the eSIM standard. Operators could also release physical SIMs that get tied to a given phone's IMEI after first insertion if they really wanted to.

Yes, but that's a problem of bad people, not guns.

Either way, the end result is that I have to identify myself at a store to move some eSIMs and many are simply not transferable (particularly from Airalo)

Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by sureIy »

smoovb wrote: post #133
sureIy wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Happens with Thai eSIM as well. They have great roaming deals so I like having its eSIM always installed, but if I change iPhone I have to visit a store Thailand. Fantastic. I ended up switching it for a physical SIM card.

If the eSIM is registered, you can also reissue a Thai eSIM online.

Dtac? Maybe he was wrong, but the operator said I couldn't.

Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by jaeckel »

Fischgericht wrote: post #94

In case the original author reads this: Depending on what 4G/LTE modem/chip your laptop it is using (it must be based on a Qualcomm SoC which 99% are), there are and I can share documents on how you can do the provisioning directly on the Laptop the SIM card is in. The feature is present in the stock Qualcomm firmware bundle, but vendors like Quectel, Sierra etc may decide if they include the feature or not. I know t…

I'd be very much interested in those documents.

You can reach me via mail to s at username dot eu

TIA

Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by pta2002 »

wkat4242 wrote: post #99
lxgr wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What country is this, if you mind sharing? I've never encountered any of these problems. I've received almost all my eSIMs as a QR code, and the ones that did offer app-based installation (which is convenient if it works, but ultimately not more than that) have a QR code for fallback. > only allowing so many changes per month That I have actually encountered. I've seen one (fortunately only when traveling) that actua…

This was in Holland, one of the MVNOs. They had a crappy app and it would generate a different QR code every time (so they were not reusable). And a lot of operators have restrictions on phones. Imported phones are often blocked (and also not given access to VoLTE). For me it is a big deal if it charges "sim fees". I do swap my sims very regularly. For testing, or to put one in my tablet when I travel. I just want to…

> none of the carriers here in Europe that do prepay offer eSIM anyway.

Not true, e.g. in Portugal: https://www.nos.pt/movel/esim (though you need to go to a store to pick-up the QR code, I think to avoid people from other countries using it?), https://www.meo.pt/servicos/movel/tarifarios-telemovel/e-sim same thing

Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by Fischgericht »

jaeckel wrote: post #204
Fischgericht wrote: post #94

In case the original author reads this: Depending on what 4G/LTE modem/chip your laptop it is using (it must be based on a Qualcomm SoC which 99% are), there are and I can share documents on how you can do the provisioning directly on the Laptop the SIM card is in. The feature is present in the stock Qualcomm firmware bundle, but vendors like Quectel, Sierra etc may decide if they include the feature or not. I know t…

I'd be very much interested in those documents. You can reach me via mail to s at username dot eu TIA

I'll clean up the stuff so I can not be identified as the leaker and send it to you.

Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by Fischgericht »

neil_neilzone wrote: post #195
Fischgericht wrote: post #94

In case the original author reads this: Depending on what 4G/LTE modem/chip your laptop it is using (it must be based on a Qualcomm SoC which 99% are), there are and I can share documents on how you can do the provisioning directly on the Laptop the SIM card is in. The feature is present in the stock Qualcomm firmware bundle, but vendors like Quectel, Sierra etc may decide if they include the feature or not. I know t…

> In case the original author reads this He has :) > there are and I can share documents on how you can do the provisioning directly on the Laptop the SIM card is in. Yes, please!

Done.

Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by joeofbook »

sunaookami wrote: post #103
singpolyma3 wrote: post #58

If you use the JMP eSIM Adapter you can use a fully open source app, or even your own build of the app or whatever you like.

You can use OpenEUICC with 9esim. They just rebrand it and publish it as their own thing. https://gitea.angry.im/PeterCxy/OpenEUICC

They do not "just" rebrand it.

OpenEUICC needs a rooted phone, while the provider-branded packages like EasyEUICC can run in user space (and thus needs to be signed with the corresponding hash).

-----8There are two variants of this project:

OpenEUICC: The full-fledged privileged variant. Due to its privilege requirement, OpenEUICC must be placed inside /system/priv-app and be signed with the platform certificate.

The preferred way to including OpenEUICC in a system image is to build it along with AOSP.

Note: When privileged, OpenEUICC supports any eUICC chip that implements the SGP.22 standard, internal or external. However, there is no guarantee that external (removable) eSIMs actually follow the standard. Please DO NOT submit bug reports for non-functioning removable eSIMs. They are NOT officially supported unless they also support / are supported by EasyEUICC, the unprivileged variant.

EasyEUICC: Unprivileged version that can run as a user app. This version supports two modes of operation: Inserted, removable eSIMs: Due to obvious security requirements, EasyEUICC is only able to access eSIM chips whose ARF/ARA contains the hash of EasyEUICC's signing certificate.

USB CCID Card Readers: Only T=0 readers that use the standard USB CCID protocol are supported. In this mode, EasyEUICC can access any eSIM chip loaded in the card reader regardless of their ARF/ARA, as long as they implement the SGP.22 standard.

Prebuilt release-mode EasyEUICC apks can be downloaded here For removable eSIM chip vendors: to have your chip supported by official builds of EasyEUICC when inserted, include the ARA-M hash 2A2FA878BC7C3354C2CF82935A5945A3EDAE4AFA

Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by [deleted] »

mbesto wrote: post #140

Tangentially related - I recently got the holy grail of eSIM travel router setup: - GLiNet Mudi v2: https://store.gl-inet.com/products/mudi-v2-portable-4g-lte-r... - EIOT Physical eSim https://store.gl-inet.com/products/esim-experience-seamless-... - 20GB Worldwide Airalo for 365 days ($69): https://www.airalo.com/global-esim/discover-365days-20gb Buy the airalo esim on my iphone. Download the QR code. Upload it to t…

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Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by GoldfishTank »

Fischgericht wrote: post #94

In case the original author reads this: Depending on what 4G/LTE modem/chip your laptop it is using (it must be based on a Qualcomm SoC which 99% are), there are and I can share documents on how you can do the provisioning directly on the Laptop the SIM card is in. The feature is present in the stock Qualcomm firmware bundle, but vendors like Quectel, Sierra etc may decide if they include the feature or not. I know t…

Not the OP, but I would appreciate any docs you could share. I have an email in my profile. Thank you!
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