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Re: The Whiskey Rebellion

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Post by tptacek »

corin_ wrote: post #39
tptacek wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you look into it, you'll find that almost every American whiskey --- both the stuff you can get at Safeway and the enthusiast bottles --- rolls up somehow to a large corporation.

Yeah, I'm a scotch man myself (get that "e" out of me whisky), largely because of taste but I do also like the fact that so many great scotches come from family-owned distilleries - of course, even "family-owned" can be a big company with lots of money, but it's still nice that most of them aren't huge companies. Edit: worth pointing out that there are a bunch of independent distilleries in America, which I'm led to…

I'm a whiskey person (I drink a lot of rye) and I'm not intended to disparage the distilleries because of their parentage. I think a lot of them got rolled up in the 70s and 80s. Heaven Hill and Sazerac put out some pretty great stuff.

Re: The Whiskey Rebellion

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Post by excuse-me »

tptacek wrote: post #35
corin_ wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're smaller than Diageo, but still a pretty big company.. almost $4b annual revenue.

When you look into it, you'll find that almost every American whiskey --- both the stuff you can get at Safeway and the enthusiast bottles --- rolls up somehow to a large corporation.

Well they are obvisouly going to be worth a few $$$ just because they sell so much of it.

But the cynical engineer in me assumed that all the "Billy-Bob still pisses in every barrel just like his grand-pappy did in 1869" type advertising, meant that it was actually made in a chemical plant in New Jersey by Union Carbide!

Must admit I've never tried the stuff - always worked on the principle that if it's not a single malt made on Speyside it's not worth drinking.

Re: The Whiskey Rebellion

#43

Post by corin_ »

tptacek wrote: post #41
corin_ wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I'm a scotch man myself (get that "e" out of me whisky), largely because of taste but I do also like the fact that so many great scotches come from family-owned distilleries - of course, even "family-owned" can be a big company with lots of money, but it's still nice that most of them aren't huge companies. Edit: worth pointing out that there are a bunch of independent distilleries in America, which I'm led to…

I'm a whiskey person (I drink a lot of rye) and I'm not intended to disparage the distilleries because of their parentage. I think a lot of them got rolled up in the 70s and 80s. Heaven Hill and Sazerac put out some pretty great stuff.

I don't avoid it because of, it's just a nice added bonus to the drinks I like (the likes of Talisker). Just the same as I use gmail because I think it's the best option, but it makes me happy when Google do stuff like support LGBT rights :)

Re: The Whiskey Rebellion

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Post by excuse-me »

ck2 wrote: post #32

They are being nice because it's protected under "parody" free speech and they'd lose. I don't drink so I am not very familiar with their label but I definitely don't think of JD when I see it.

To be a parody you have to be paroding the thing you are copying, not using it to parody a third party. The defense is intended to stop ACME company preventing you saying "Boycott ACME" by claiming ownership of the name. It doesn't allow you to copy ACME's fine range of anti-roadrunner products to protest against something else.

For example Weird Al's songs are parodies but they aren't protected because he is parodying the Amish NOT Coolio.

Re: The Whiskey Rebellion

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Post by TeMPOraL »

Wasn't this submission link a Boing Boing article just 15 minutes ago? What the hell is going on HN? Not only the title renaming frenzy, but now the submission links change? I'm really confused...

Re: The Whiskey Rebellion

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Post by corin_ »

excuse-me wrote: post #42
tptacek wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you look into it, you'll find that almost every American whiskey --- both the stuff you can get at Safeway and the enthusiast bottles --- rolls up somehow to a large corporation.

Well they are obvisouly going to be worth a few $$$ just because they sell so much of it. But the cynical engineer in me assumed that all the "Billy-Bob still pisses in every barrel just like his grand-pappy did in 1869" type advertising, meant that it was actually made in a chemical plant in New Jersey by Union Carbide! Must admit I've never tried the stuff - always worked on the principle that if it's not a single…

Based on how you describe yourself you're right not to have tried JD, you probably wouldn't like it - personally I only drink it with coke when I'm out drinking, not for taste.

But I think limiting yourself to Speyside is foolish. The fact that you do this makes me assume you've tried single malts from other areas, and I also presume that you didn't just try one once and jump to the conclusion that everything not Speyside sucks. So maybe you don't need this advice, but I'll give it anyway.

I'm a big Speyside fan, and most of the time I buy a reasonably expensive bottle that's where it's from, but there are some great bottles from other areas, in particular (for me at least) Islay and the Islands. Talisker for example is like no whisky I've ever drunk, but is pretty fantastic. Laphroaig and Ardbeg are two Islays that have some really nice releases, and even Bowmore, despite being a brand best known for cheap and average bottles in supermarkets, have a few decent ones.

Oh, and even outside Scotland you might be surprised. Ever tried Yamazaki from Japan?

Re: The Whiskey Rebellion

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Post by electromagnetic »

excuse-me wrote: post #13

If they were olympic sponsors they would be demanding that he removed the letters "J" and "D" from anywhere they appear in the text of the book

I've trademarked vowels, I intend to sue J.K. Rowling, and all major authors for every AEIOU and occasional Y used. I figure it could be worth millions per novel.

Re: The Whiskey Rebellion

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Post by rdl »

tptacek wrote: post #35
corin_ wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're smaller than Diageo, but still a pretty big company.. almost $4b annual revenue.

When you look into it, you'll find that almost every American whiskey --- both the stuff you can get at Safeway and the enthusiast bottles --- rolls up somehow to a large corporation.

http://recenteats.blogspot.com/p/complete-list-of-american-w...
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