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UK's hardware talent is being wasted

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Re: UK's hardware talent is being wasted

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post #743

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Realistically in order to prosper the UK needs to join up as part of a "greater NAFTA" trade bloc. But the UK no longer has anything that the USA needs so they'll have to make major concessions to get a deal done.

The UK left the largest free trade area a few years ago. There's little appetite to join the American one, as it would mean lowering standards (food etc) which ruins Britain's specialties.

When you're starving you eat what's available regardless of how appetizing it looks. The UK isn't starving yet, but how long can they hold out? And has NAFTA ruined Canadian or Mexican food?

Re: UK's hardware talent is being wasted

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post #745

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Local councillors being against development is nothing to do with bank bailouts, which have (mostly) been repaid by selling off the banks again.

That isn't what I mean. The moral hazard is caused by the bailouts. It isn't about the sum itself. Merely the guarantee that the tab for large gambling losses will be taken by the taxpayers.

- not gambling, mortgages

- not in the end a loss (banks taken into government ownership eventually sold for about the acquisition price

- bank shareholders lost their money

- you don't want to see everything turned into Northern Rock bank runs

Re: UK's hardware talent is being wasted

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post #686

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I used to live and work in Cambridge. In many ways it's a victim of its own success; people will, not unreasonably, argue that it's a beautiful little town of historic buildings, embedded in a primarily agricultural county of either prime agricultural land or protected wetland. They're not going to let you build Shenzen in Shelford no matter what the economic benefit might be. Meanwhile it's close enough to London th…

The wiki editor(s) who wrote the boosterish Economy subsection of the wiki page on Peterborough [1] (thirty miles away, same county) make it sound as though it is a growing area that does want to grow more. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterborough

I can tell that you've read the Wikipedia page rather than going to Peterborough.

Re: UK's hardware talent is being wasted

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their energy policy has essentially crippled their economy

Do you have a metric, or not?

Do you have any sources that you would recommend? So far, you're throwing out "got a source for that?" left and right and when you get a source you've nothing to say.

Just curious if you have knowledge about this subject or if you're just trying to block the conversation from going in directions you don't like

Re: UK's hardware talent is being wasted

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post #905

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The wiki editor(s) who wrote the boosterish Economy subsection of the wiki page on Peterborough [1] (thirty miles away, same county) make it sound as though it is a growing area that does want to grow more. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterborough

I can tell that you've read the Wikipedia page rather than going to Peterborough.

Could you clarify how the vast majority of people in the world who will never set foot in Peterborough (including me) should interpret that?

Re: UK's hardware talent is being wasted

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Where I've worked in hardware dev, the biggest bottleneck is software.

It's because hardware developers don't take the software side seriously and either assume they can just do it themselves or don't think it's worth a decent salary

It's always somebody's fault, and I haven't analyzed it that closely. But empirically, the priority of software is to finish the previous project, while hardware moves ahead. We don't touch production code. Some of us (myself) write our own test scripts. Very little hardware runs without some kind of computation happening. When one of my designs goes on the shelf, I want it to be provably reproducible and tested.

We definitely value software, and the devs are our friends. It's not such a huge place that we're totally isolated from one another.

Re: UK's hardware talent is being wasted

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post #876

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That was worse in the 18th and 19th century, and yet people were willing to ground new corporations back then. I think the answer is something the left won't like - we (Europe) are killing ourselves with bureaucracy, often environmental bureaucracy. A road to hell paved with good intentions. The documentation to the Lower Thames Crossing, a planned highway tunnel, already exceeds 360 000 pages. This is just crazy. ht…

Since Europe is to the left of the US, whatever the US is doing right (pun intended) is bound to be something the Left won't like. The US also has plenty of bureaucracy, and what's worse, a lot of it stems from Common Law and capricious courts that interpret it, which is partly why large civil engineering projects like upgrading the NYC subway cost 4x more than the equivalents in Western Europe (minus the UK) or Japa…

I think the second part of your second point is the critical one. Europe has also a lot of free capital, but if it’s invested it flows to the US. Why? Because returns are outsized. But I wonder why?

Re: UK's hardware talent is being wasted

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post #640

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I don't think they'd relocate, but that doesn't matter. They most likely will pull an ARM and hire almost entirely in the US and India instead of in the UK, because competitive British engineers would immigrate to the States, and you can get top tier Indian chip design talent across the spectrum for $30-60k.

It is impossible to immigrate to the US unless your employer is willing to go through the time-consuming and expensive process of sponsoring a visa + green card, which they have little reason to do since they can pay you less over here. I've been designing chips for years in the UK at ARM and elsewhere, haven't encountered anyone moving to the States

Oof. That is rough. I assumed Arm would give the L1/2 option to high caliber employees - it's the norm in India.
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