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Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by sunaookami »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #96
fullspectrumdev wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much registration is required? I can see this being useful for some things :)

It requires that you give them your bank account details. The stated reason is because you can call premium services and run up a charges even with a free service.

Yeah this, and you need to give them your full address because you have to enter a code that is sent via (physical) mail. Also it has the "Datenautomatik" enabled by default where new data packages are bought automatically when the limit is reached but you can turn this off (it's on by default).

Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by RicoElectrico »

sofixa wrote: post #77
RicoElectrico wrote: post #51

Transitioning to eSim-only could enslave us even further, as if Windows 11 secure boot shenanigans were not enough. Please raise this with your favorite digital freedom advocate. Let's be proactive on this one.

> Transitioning to eSim-only could enslave us even further, as if Windows 11 secure boot shenanigans were not enough How are eSIMs "enslaving" people? Or for that matter, Windows 11 secure boot ? There's plenty to complain about in Windows 11 from a privacy perspective, but secure boot is your problem?

Even media created with MS's own USB imager didn't work with my DIY build. May be related to Asus' UEFI but there's no proper diagnostic facility to know. I said screw it, and used Rufus to bypass any MS nonsense at the same time.

And how? The same way SIM locks did. EU made them illegal not without reason.

Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by sunaookami »

singpolyma3 wrote: post #58

If you use the JMP eSIM Adapter you can use a fully open source app, or even your own build of the app or whatever you like.

You can use OpenEUICC with 9esim. They just rebrand it and publish it as their own thing. https://gitea.angry.im/PeterCxy/OpenEUICC

Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by gruez »

jtokoph wrote: post #86
rendaw wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you need a physical sim in China? Are there just no esim providers? Or is it something deeper?

Apparently there aren't any eSIMs in China that include a phone number. I'm not sure why. I think this is why Apple releases the latest iPhones with physical SIM trays in China while the latest iPhones in North America are eSIM only

>while the latest iPhones in North America are eSIM only

It's US that's esim only. Canada and Mexico still has physical sim + esim option if you're willing to drive across the border.

https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/

https://www.apple.com/ca/iphone/compare/

https://www.apple.com/mx/iphone/compare/

Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by gruez »

__m wrote: post #89
rendaw wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you need a physical sim in China? Are there just no esim providers? Or is it something deeper?

I only know eSIM providers for data

Most "travel esims" are data-only, but there are definitely domestic carriers/MVNOs that provide voice + text, and provide esims.

Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by briodf »

sunaookami wrote: post #33

Haha what a coincidence, I bought a 9eSIM adapter a few weeks ago! There is a new eSIM-only card in Germany where you get 3 GB of data plus unlimited SMS and calls per month for free. To order it I had to use Frida and the Android emulator to fool the app into thinking the device had an eSIM. After that you have to do some JavaScript shenanigans on the website to get the QR code. But after that, everything works flaw…

3GB of Data + Unlimited SMS and Calls for free sounds very nice? Can you share the name of the provider so that we can add it to our eSIM comparison for Germany https://www.monito.com/en/esim-plans-compared

Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by priyanmuthu »

dustypotato wrote: post #92
daft_pink wrote: post #85

Hoping for the opposite option. Using physical sims for devices that only support esim?

Curious on what you think the advantage there is ? If you lose your phone , you don't lose your number if it's an eSIM

I would love to use the GoogleFi data only SIM on my iPad. But the Fi doesn't provide data only eSIM, and my iPad cannot have physical SIM slots.

Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by [deleted] »

everdrive wrote: post #62

Does anyone have any resources which explain why eSIMs tunnel your network traffic to the provider? My mental model for old fashioned physical SIMs is that they would roam on the network you're visiting. ie, a Chinese physical SIM on a US network would show up from the US network, and would otherwise be normal except that the phone and network traffic would be very expensive. My understanding of eSIMs is that they ac…

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Re: Using eSIMs with devices that only have a physical SIM slot via a 9eSIM SIM car

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Post by Elucalidavah »

porphyra wrote: post #107

I'm interested in solving the opposite problem: using physical SIMs with devices that only have eSIM. This is extremely important when going to mainland China as physical SIMs are required there.

Using an eSIM data on a physical sim is relatively straightforward; getting the keys from a physical SIM to use as an eSIM is relatively non-trivial, as "the card is designed to never divulge this key to the outside world".
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