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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone making money selling traditional downloadable software?

#91
I have been doing this for the past 5 years with https://folge.me. A one-time payment alternative to Scribehow, Tango.us and myriads of similar apps.

I can't say that this is a very profitable business, especially given that I don't charge any fees for the updates, but I quite enjoy talking to users, finding out their needs, and improving Folge over time. I think Folge has become my hobby.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone making money selling traditional downloadable software?

#92

Legal changes are making it increasingly very difficult to sell perpetual licenses. For example, in Germany, a new law recently took effect that clarifies that if you sell a software license for a given period of time, you're liable to provide whatever updates/support the customer may need over the course of the software's licensing period to enable the customer to keep running it, at no additional cost, regardless o…

But it can be possible to have a license that allows you to run it at your own risk forever right? I mean, open source licenses do that, so you can make those and sell those as well. The 'support' being whatever updates happen to appear. Or the support is separately sold (again, like open source), so you pay once and for all year and you get updates forever, however, no support after 1 year; you can buy more. I have…

Usually if something is written into law, a person can't waive those rights with a separate contract.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone making money selling traditional downloadable software?

#94
I tried to sell original products from companies like Adobe, Microsoft, Autodesk, ESET, McAfee, and others, establishing partnerships with each of them. I soon realized there was an opportunity to sell products at much lower prices than the market. I did it, but I discovered that people weren’t attracted to low prices. They seem to feel more secure with higher prices, as if expensive items are associated with higher quality, and cheap items are seen as suspicious.

In the end, I decided to abandon that business model and focus solely on businesses. However, now I’m considering the possibility of revisiting that idea, but in the form of a blog, monetizing through Bitcoin payments. Currently, I am fully focused on automation, so the idea would lean more towards a blog/e-commerce approach.

In my original proposal, I didn’t offer subscription-based products like Office 365, but I did offer antivirus software, which has always been subscription-based.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone making money selling traditional downloadable software?

#95
On macOS, two backup programs are doing this:

* https://www.shirt-pocket.com/SuperDuper/SuperDuperDescriptio...

* https://bombich.com

Also, Little Snitch, a network monitoring/firewall tool:

* https://www.obdev.at/products/littlesnitch/index.html

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone making money selling traditional downloadable software?

#96
post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Adobe photoshop is what people are tought how to use. It is the same thing with excel. It isn't enough to have a superior product, you also have to overcome the momentum of the prevailing software. That's not to say it is impossible, but Photoshop has a significant advantage.

Photoshop isn’t on top simply because people know how to use it. There’s simply no better tool for most users who need that level of photo editing tool. I’ve never seen a superior product to either Photoshop or Excel. Have you? Maybe they’re on top because they really are good products.

I find Excel a clunky piece of junk so use Apple Numbers for my spreadsheet needs. The majority of people probably don't need to pay the M$ or Adobe monthly tax.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone making money selling traditional downloadable software?

#97
I switched off sales of my last desktop app a couple of months ago. It was still bringing in sales of about $600 a month, but it felt like a weight hanging around my neck. Despite shutting it down I expect I'll still get a couple of support emails a month for the next 10 years.

We're building a desktop / SaaS app right now that we'll be selling using a SaaS model. A combination of desktop app built with Electron and a web app for managing accounts and teams. I'd never touch a "once off" pricing model again.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone making money selling traditional downloadable software?

#98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Photoshop 6 does everything I ever want Photoshop to do. I wish Adobe would continue to sell a one time purchase copy of PS6 instead of forcing everyone to SaaS. Fortunately I own a physical copy of the PS6 disks that I purchased years ago, so I don’t have a problem acquiring PS6 on any new machines by various means.

A little off topic, but, if you'll indulge me: Why do you think nobody has been able to make a successful alternative to Photoshop? Everybody I know complains about it constantly, and yet it's still the industry standard.

Pixelmator was a wildly successful Photoshop competitor.

Their company was successful too; Apple recently purchased them.

The speculation is that Apple will now compete with Adobe’s subscriptionware.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone making money selling traditional downloadable software?

#99

Yes, game developers.

Even when you buy a game by disc nowadays, you are forced into waiting an hour to install cloud updates.

You know there's more games out there than the multi-hundred-GB ones put out by AAA studios, right?

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone making money selling traditional downloadable software?

#100
I do. macOS applications. Generating between 1,000-2,000 USD monthly (so variable because no subscriptions).

Obviously this is still a hobby that I am trying to make more sustainable. But this is where I am right now after 3-4 years in this business.

https://loshadki.app - you can check the apps here.

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