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Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by Xelbair » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 1:32 PM UTC

theshrike79 wrote: post #193

Xelbair wrote: post #164

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you are still missing the point. USER should chose that. not apple. not all of them shut down, someone might get a battery replacement. What apple should've do is to introduce a toggle, give a warning in notification. and in case of crash, display it again.

Apple (IMO rationally) chose that people would prefer a working phone, one they can use to call emergecy services, for example, to a phone that just suddenly dies. After the massive hissy fit the Internet threw (along with lawsuits), they added a switch. Now you can choose to have your phone suddenly die. But the legend lives on that "Appple slowed down phones permanently!!" - even though the fix for that is a 40€ ba…

Again, let user chose. apple sold a product, it's out of their hands to decide what users do with it.

Maybe i want to use the device in a way that's 100% connected to the charger and repurpose it.

It's not apple's business what I'm doing with it

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by nunobrito » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 1:33 PM UTC

DrBenCarson wrote: post #78

nialv7 wrote: post #34

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bait-and-switch? We, those who advocate for open source 3D printers, saw it coming from miles away. This has very very clearly been their plan all along, they themselves said as much (e.g. they are doing the "apple model"). They have been very transparent about this, yet people still fell for it.

AFAIK, Apple has never retroactively removed functionality from devices people already purchased Selling a walled garden is one thing, building walls around a garden you already bought is another thing entirely

They did even worse.

New firmware upgrades made older devices slower and painfully unusable: https://www.techradar.com/news/apple-might-be-slowing-down-y...

And they have plenty of experience building walls around a garden. Ask anyone using OSX for the past 15 years and you will see how difficult it has become to write or publish software for Apple.

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by nunobrito » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 1:37 PM UTC

esskay wrote: post #185

askariwa wrote: post #124

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Well, they DID remove expected performance by slowing CPU performance, disn't they? People who had bought these iPhones (and not the previous ones) did so also because of the promise of a more powerful CPU, a promise broken by Apple. It is removing a feature (a better CPU) and Apple knew it that's why they did it without informing users.

Just to add, they also got fined by the EU for doing so, so it was ruled to be illegal. Bambu's changes would fall into the same category of altering the product and degrading the experience after its been sold.

Just to let you know that InstaCam360 did the same on their cameras with the smartphone app.

Previously you could directly upload the 360 videos do youtube, now you need to download the film locally on the phone, then host a converted version and only after those loops you are permitted to upload.

Or you can now buy a monthly subscription and get back the feature that was already there before. Quite disappointed with this kind of behavior.

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by dangus » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 1:40 PM UTC

Szpadel wrote: post #126

dangus wrote: post #41

I personally think the outrage I've seen on this issue is generally not justified. In general people are just scared of change and on top of that are playing telephone on the details of the change, assuming the worst intentions from Bambu like they're trying to be the next HP. I have seen a lot of misinformation on this topic, and I think that in that sense it's a good idea to read the actual announcement details to…

well, it's they really meant improving security they didn't do great job, as you can see people broke this security in a day blocking printing from sdcard in Lan mode basically deny any claims that this change was poorly communicated improvement

They broke the security of a beta product. That’s why it’s beta and not a released product.

LAN mode didn’t exist when this product was first sold, and it was never implemented through the SD card. It was meant to be used through Bambu Studio over your local network.

“Not implemented/not yet implemented” != “blocked”

Someone who bought a Bambu Lab printer early on actually has more ability to use it without a cloud service now than they did when the product was new. Just about everyone who owns a Bambu Lab printer already signed up for a cloud-connected printer.

https://wiki.bambulab.com/en/p1/manual/p1p-firmware-release-...

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by nunobrito » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 1:40 PM UTC

theshrike79 wrote: post #191

jillyboel wrote: post #165

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Not sure what kind of users you're dealing with, but your typical iphone user can absolutely not do that

A typical car driver can't change the oil in their car, nor can they do a headgasket swap either. People don't go telling that Ford "refuses users to let their change their oil". It's all perfectly doable, but you do need the tools and an ability to follow a step by step guide with pictures.

Imagine Ford deciding their cars must drive at 50% their speed when the engine oil is older than 2 years and at the same time forbidding users from changing the oil.

Yet there are always people justifying these type of awful practices as better for users. These aren't, the measures are only good for business.

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by nunobrito » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 1:42 PM UTC

SSLy wrote: post #133

cyberax wrote: post #119

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wife printing sounds nice!

the future is now

Are those still in PLA or you can print them organic now?

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by op00to » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 1:43 PM UTC

NelsonMinar wrote: post #24

I am angry at the bait-and-switch Bambu is pulling. I bought one of their printers in the Black Friday sale on the understanding it was reasonably hackable and open. Now they're trying to lock it down so I can't print on my own printer without using their approved software and DRM chain. It's outrageous. More info on the hacking (the first in what may be a long stupid fight): https://hackaday.com/2025/01/19/bambu-con…

“Hackable” and “open” were never advertised or officially supported by Bambu. It is foolish to make a purchase decision based on an unsupported and unadvertised feature, and while you can be angry that seems silly.

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by op00to » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 1:46 PM UTC

stavros wrote: post #170

nialv7 wrote: post #34

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bait-and-switch? We, those who advocate for open source 3D printers, saw it coming from miles away. This has very very clearly been their plan all along, they themselves said as much (e.g. they are doing the "apple model"). They have been very transparent about this, yet people still fell for it.

I bought a printer. It had some stuff. I didn't want that stuff to be gone after I bought it. That's a bait-and-switch, because they didn't explicitly say "be aware, that stuff is going away on Jan 2025".

They never officially supported compatibility with Orca, or Home Assistant. Vendors break compatibility with unsupported stuff all the time. Don’t make purchase decisions on unsupported features if you’re gonna get all bent out of shape about it.

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by ErneX » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 1:46 PM UTC

esskay wrote: post #197

ErneX wrote: post #181

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What are your thoughts on the upcoming Prusa Core One? I was thinking about getting a P1S but with this rug pull I’m not sure anymore.

I wouldn't buy any new Prusa printer until it's been in the wild at least a year, they tend to be very buggy at launch. They also have no multimaterial support at launch, the MMU3 will not work with the Core One until they release an update, which they've not yet given a timeline for.

Thank you.

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by idunnoman1222 » Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 1:47 PM UTC

mnau wrote: post #138

gaoryrt wrote: post #89

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I don't think you can print cash/paper money.

That is covered by "pretty much anything." That doesn't mean absolutely everything.

With the 3D printer you can currently print everything on the 2-D printer you can print everything minus one. (actually there’s probably a whole bunch of currency you can’t print which is maybe hundreds of things ) those are completely different systems of control.