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Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by DrBenCarson »

MindSpunk wrote: post #67
nialv7 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I paid ~$750 for my 350mm Voron 2.4 kit (and, sure, 40 hours of my time. But look, you want to do 3D printing, 40 hours are just a small initial investment).

> But look, you want to do 3D printing, 40 hours are just a small initial investment No. None of this crap. I want to 3D print. I don't want to service industrial machinery in my spare time. Why should 3D printing require spending weekends troubleshooting machines just to keep the thing working? I want to print models not play repair technician. Vorons are fantastic printers and a fantastic kit if 3D printing itself…

QIDIs might need a slight bit more tinkering with settings for new filaments but they’re pretty solid and offer more than Bambu does for the money

Comparing Bambu to Voron is an absurd comparison

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by wongarsu »

jopsen wrote: post #65
goda90 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's so much open source software, firmware, and hardware out there for FDM 3D printers, I doubt they'll ever get as bad as regular printers. It's much more a tinkerers world than 2D printing ever would be.

Are regular printers that bad, if buy brother? I bought a B/W laser printer and have been generally impressed with the lack of BS that came a long with it. It did ask for toner once, so I bought something from a third-party.

I've only made good experiences with laser printers, from very small ones to full-sized copy machines. Some of the more expensive inkjet printers are reportedly also quite good. You are still stuck with the usual horror show that is software from hardware companies, but otherwise it's not so bad. And the occasional paper jam, but 3d printers are no better in terms of reliability

The bad reputation is just from HP's tactic to sell printers cheaper than everyone else, in more stores than anyone else, then make the money back with the scummiest tactics imaginable.

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by DrBenCarson »

adenta wrote: post #4
ClassyJacket wrote: post #2

I'm so happy Bambu is getting what's coming to them after screwing us so badly <3

The A1 mini was my first printer and it just works. Is there another brand that is idiot proof?

If you’re looking for a CoreXY machine that can handle more industrial filaments for reasonable money, check out QIDI

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by moooo99 »

hooverd wrote: post #37
nialv7 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

bait-and-switch? We, those who advocate for open source 3D printers, saw it coming from miles away. This has very very clearly been their plan all along, they themselves said as much (e.g. they are doing the "apple model"). They have been very transparent about this, yet people still fell for it.

Open source didn't compete on quality for price. I could pay 2k plus 40 hours of my time for a Voron or buy something that just works. I think Prusa only put out their CoreXY offering after they realized Bambu was eating their lunch. The Apple model works because people want to print rather than tinker.

> Open source didn't compete on quality for price.

Well, Open Source did compete on one quality very well: being open, hackable and staying that way. With this being removed from Bambu lab printers it seems as if this is a very much valued aspect for many 3D printing enthusiasts, yet few people were willing to compromise for this aspect.

Apparently it is true, you don’t know how much you value something until you don’t have it anymore

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by kamranjon »

hooverd wrote: post #37
nialv7 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

bait-and-switch? We, those who advocate for open source 3D printers, saw it coming from miles away. This has very very clearly been their plan all along, they themselves said as much (e.g. they are doing the "apple model"). They have been very transparent about this, yet people still fell for it.

Open source didn't compete on quality for price. I could pay 2k plus 40 hours of my time for a Voron or buy something that just works. I think Prusa only put out their CoreXY offering after they realized Bambu was eating their lunch. The Apple model works because people want to print rather than tinker.

Curious if anyone has tried the Core XY printers from Creality? I think they use open source software and are generally in the same ballpark as the Bambu printers price-wise. Also saw they have a similar AMS style system as well.

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by moooo99 »

franga2000 wrote: post #69

I was very against Bambu in the beginning for their lack of proper network (not cloud!) support. Then they added LAN mode and I actually considered getting one. Luckily I was lazy and never got around to it. What the fuck Bambu?? Security, really? Not even HP dares to make that excuse...

I mean, I technically see why authentication may be something they want to consider, especially for the less technically inclined users that Bambu is very obviously targeting.

However, this can be easily achieved without bricking every single third party integration. That should simple be a toggle in the settings that works entirely local

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by szundi »

DrBenCarson wrote: post #81
MindSpunk wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But look, you want to do 3D printing, 40 hours are just a small initial investment No. None of this crap. I want to 3D print. I don't want to service industrial machinery in my spare time. Why should 3D printing require spending weekends troubleshooting machines just to keep the thing working? I want to print models not play repair technician. Vorons are fantastic printers and a fantastic kit if 3D printing itself…

QIDIs might need a slight bit more tinkering with settings for new filaments but they’re pretty solid and offer more than Bambu does for the money Comparing Bambu to Voron is an absurd comparison

What do they offer more in your experience?

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by gaoryrt »

arduinomancer wrote: post #87
throwaway48476 wrote: post #10

If 3D printing isn't kept open source there's going to be laws about what you can and can't print that will kill innovation.

Doubt it 2D printers are not open source and you can still print pretty much anything

I don't think you can print cash/paper money.

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by rustcleaner »

userbinator wrote: post #27

I'm not surprised that 3D printers are turning out to be as hostile as 2D ones. As usual these days, "security" is the excuse.

With 3D printing out for a while now, there's zero good reason IMHO that there isn't a 2D-plotter retrofit which allows someone to attach one or more [colored] pencils or pens. I'm really shocked the overpriced ink monopolies weren't attacked in this manner, as a young child I distinctly remember a kiosk in a grocery store which 'printed' messages and images on blank cards using colored pencils, for customer order. None of this is remotely new.
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