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Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by nicman23 »

MindSpunk wrote: post #67
nialv7 wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I paid ~$750 for my 350mm Voron 2.4 kit (and, sure, 40 hours of my time. But look, you want to do 3D printing, 40 hours are just a small initial investment).

> But look, you want to do 3D printing, 40 hours are just a small initial investment No. None of this crap. I want to 3D print. I don't want to service industrial machinery in my spare time. Why should 3D printing require spending weekends troubleshooting machines just to keep the thing working? I want to print models not play repair technician. Vorons are fantastic printers and a fantastic kit if 3D printing itself…

because 3d printing is not there yet.

the whole process is basically cnc but with z hops and extruding instead of removing material.

we do not even have conical slicing yet.

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by hatsunearu »

Gigachad wrote: post #59
Aaron2222 wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I _think_ that's browsing the SD card from Bambu Studio when the printer's set to LAN Mode, not printing from SD on the printer itself.

Yeah this looks to be the case. All of this change was prompted by the fact that malicious software was triggering prints over the network. So now they have locked it down so the printer can verify prints came from the actual account owner. Printing directly from SD cards via the little touch screen is unchanged since networked computers can’t do that.

I really really hope people saying this is a nothingburger is actually right, because I do have a P1S, use orcaslicer, and would like it to continue to work. Hoping this is just a miscommunication.

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by nicman23 »

adenta wrote: post #4
ClassyJacket wrote: post #2

I'm so happy Bambu is getting what's coming to them after screwing us so badly <3

The A1 mini was my first printer and it just works. Is there another brand that is idiot proof?

flashforge is pretty good and by design easy to root.

it is running klipper internally and there are mods to run a completely open source stack (with blobs)

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by abtinf »

nicman23 wrote: post #71
MindSpunk wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But look, you want to do 3D printing, 40 hours are just a small initial investment No. None of this crap. I want to 3D print. I don't want to service industrial machinery in my spare time. Why should 3D printing require spending weekends troubleshooting machines just to keep the thing working? I want to print models not play repair technician. Vorons are fantastic printers and a fantastic kit if 3D printing itself…

because 3d printing is not there yet. the whole process is basically cnc but with z hops and extruding instead of removing material. we do not even have conical slicing yet.

> because 3d printing is not there yet

Ya, it is, and it’s been there for quite a while now thanks to Bambu.

The X1 just works. Coming up on a year of frequent use, I can count the number of failed prints on one hand. It’s incredible.

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by bushbaba »

harrall wrote: post #51
hooverd wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Open source didn't compete on quality for price. I could pay 2k plus 40 hours of my time for a Voron or buy something that just works. I think Prusa only put out their CoreXY offering after they realized Bambu was eating their lunch. The Apple model works because people want to print rather than tinker.

Well Prusa was open and did compete. But for 3D printers that worked out of the box under $1000, Prusa had no real competition itself. The Mk3 came out in 2017 and I swear Prusa just sat on their laurels. I was a Mk3s+ owner (well, still am) and was pretty disappointed how little improved with the Mk4. Bambu’s competition was Prusa and they clearly strived to improve over what Prusa had accomplished.

I wondered if the bamboo was sold for a loss

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by BoorishBears »

nicman23 wrote: post #71
MindSpunk wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But look, you want to do 3D printing, 40 hours are just a small initial investment No. None of this crap. I want to 3D print. I don't want to service industrial machinery in my spare time. Why should 3D printing require spending weekends troubleshooting machines just to keep the thing working? I want to print models not play repair technician. Vorons are fantastic printers and a fantastic kit if 3D printing itself…

because 3d printing is not there yet. the whole process is basically cnc but with z hops and extruding instead of removing material. we do not even have conical slicing yet.

You're saying this yet anyone can buy a random Bambu and just print.

I've owned or used probably every major (and some minor) printer released in the last 8 years and for most people Bambu really will just be "plug and play" (and even if something goes wrong they'll hold hands as much as needed)

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by DrBenCarson »

nialv7 wrote: post #34
NelsonMinar wrote: post #24

I am angry at the bait-and-switch Bambu is pulling. I bought one of their printers in the Black Friday sale on the understanding it was reasonably hackable and open. Now they're trying to lock it down so I can't print on my own printer without using their approved software and DRM chain. It's outrageous. More info on the hacking (the first in what may be a long stupid fight): https://hackaday.com/2025/01/19/bambu-con…

bait-and-switch? We, those who advocate for open source 3D printers, saw it coming from miles away. This has very very clearly been their plan all along, they themselves said as much (e.g. they are doing the "apple model"). They have been very transparent about this, yet people still fell for it.

AFAIK, Apple has never retroactively removed functionality from devices people already purchased

Selling a walled garden is one thing, building walls around a garden you already bought is another thing entirely

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by wongarsu »

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #74

> Bambu Lab is a Chinese tech company that designs and manufactures 3D printers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bambu_Lab

They disrupted the 3d printer market with printers that just work out-of-the-box at at price points where you typically only get enthusiast products that require a lot of tinkering.

A lot of their business model is seemingly based on making long-term sales from consumables. Their solution for multi-color printing is more convenient to use with filament sold by them because they embed information about the filament on proprietary RFID tags.

A couple days ago they announced locking down the API for their most expensive line of printers, locking most API calls to only their own software because of "security". Users are obviously upset.

Rumours for the reasons range from protecting themselves from user mods that replicate the RFID functionality on any filament by configuring the printer via API calls, to Bambu Labs wanting to launch some kind of subscription service for print farms.

Re: Reverse Engineering Bambu Connect

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Post by DrBenCarson »

jopsen wrote: post #65
goda90 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's so much open source software, firmware, and hardware out there for FDM 3D printers, I doubt they'll ever get as bad as regular printers. It's much more a tinkerers world than 2D printing ever would be.

Are regular printers that bad, if buy brother? I bought a B/W laser printer and have been generally impressed with the lack of BS that came a long with it. It did ask for toner once, so I bought something from a third-party.

Yep laser printers are the equivalent of modern CoreXY printers with solid auto calibration
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