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Fake Job Listings Are Proliferating

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Re: Fake Job Listings Are Proliferating

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Post by hackingonempty »

kyleee wrote: post #10
DaveMcMartin wrote: post #5

That’s why tools like Jobs Applier AI Agent are proliferating as well. Fight fire with fire, I guess?

We need a snappy word for everything in life becoming a shitty escalating cat and mouse game. I’m hearing the word enshittification a lot these days but unsure if it’s right here

No "enshittification" is a specific process where you use VC money to make something great and attract a lot of users then you open it up to third parties to make money together with your platform, gradually making it shittier for end users, then once you have killed off competition and have third parties locked in you start turning the screws on them making everything shitty for everyone while you shovel money into your accounts.

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Post by Ancalagon »

29athrowaway wrote: post #6

It should be illegal. Fake job postings are used to harvest data, to give fake signals like the company is growing. One is a privacy problem, the other one is fraud. If you get a response saying the position was filled, you should be able to request for the job posting to be removed, or they should do it within a reasonable period of time. If the position remains open after they tell you it is closed just apply again…

It does seem like the SEC should be involved at least for public companies.

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Post by bdangubic »

Ancalagon wrote: post #12
29athrowaway wrote: post #6

It should be illegal. Fake job postings are used to harvest data, to give fake signals like the company is growing. One is a privacy problem, the other one is fraud. If you get a response saying the position was filled, you should be able to request for the job posting to be removed, or they should do it within a reasonable period of time. If the position remains open after they tell you it is closed just apply again…

It does seem like the SEC should be involved at least for public companies.

I have been an investor for the last three decades and have NEVER heard anyone mention anything regarding companies health etc based on how many job openings they have (outside of some pitch like “XYZ is planning to hire XXX people for their ZZZ). can’t see why SEC would be involved here in any way. Maybe Dept of Labor but not sure what they could do

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Post by paleotrope »

cadamsdotcom wrote: post #4

Nothing new, just amplified by AI. Companies inflate open roles to make themselves look more legit. A bonus is they can trawl for candidates and keep resumes in the back pocket. AI makes this easier so it can be done for less effort so more companies can do it. If you want a real job that really exists, aim for intros to hiring managers.

Who are these people keeping resumes in their "back pocket". Has anyone ever been reached out about a job months or years later. Has anyone here ever just keep a resume just in case?

Re: Fake Job Listings Are Proliferating

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Post by onetokeoverthe »

bdangubic wrote: post #13
Ancalagon wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does seem like the SEC should be involved at least for public companies.

I have been an investor for the last three decades and have NEVER heard anyone mention anything regarding companies health etc based on how many job openings they have (outside of some pitch like “XYZ is planning to hire XXX people for their ZZZ). can’t see why SEC would be involved here in any way. Maybe Dept of Labor but not sure what they could do

...some pitch like “XYZ is planning to hire XXX people for their ZZZ."

exactly.

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Post by yencabulator »

crmd wrote: post #14

We need more regulation of commercial speech. It should be unlawful with serious penalties to knowingly mislead people via commercial speech.

> In law, fraud is intentional deception to deprive a victim of a legal right or to gain from a victim unlawfully or unfairly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud

> Categories of speech that are given lesser or no protection by the First Amendment (and therefore may be restricted) include obscenity, fraud, [...]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_free_speech_exce...

Re: Fake Job Listings Are Proliferating

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Post by yencabulator »

kyleee wrote: post #10
DaveMcMartin wrote: post #5

That’s why tools like Jobs Applier AI Agent are proliferating as well. Fight fire with fire, I guess?

We need a snappy word for everything in life becoming a shitty escalating cat and mouse game. I’m hearing the word enshittification a lot these days but unsure if it’s right here

Slopification
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