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What if no one misses TikTok?

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Re: What if no one misses TikTok?

#82

It’s totally insane that China can ban all American social networks on security concerns and ban all kinds of just basic speech on their apps, but banning a Chinese social network is so controversial.

China doesn't claim that free speech and personal freedom are part of their core values

It's freedom of speech until you say bad stuff about Americas 51st state in the middle east that's killing on average 5 children every day with our tax money.

That was not the freedom of speech your supposed to hear on social media. That's why it's a threat. Be like Twitter and ban those accounts instead.

Re: What if no one misses TikTok?

#84
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

China doesn't claim that free speech and personal freedom are part of their core values

Sure but what would that have to do with this action here? TikTok isn’t being banned because of free speech or not but because the usage of their algorithms allows the app to influence how Americans think about different issues. China has recognized this as a threat and as such has banned foreign adversary social media companies from operating within its borders. Likewise the United States has recognized that this is…

> the usage of their algorithms allows the app to influence how Americans think about different issues.

Which, if true, means that the US has been influencing the rest of the world for the past 20 years through all the other social networks.

Re: What if no one misses TikTok?

#86

It’s totally insane that China can ban all American social networks on security concerns and ban all kinds of just basic speech on their apps, but banning a Chinese social network is so controversial.

China doesn't claim that free speech and personal freedom are part of their core values

How can speech on TikTok be free if TikTok as a platform is not ?

Re: What if no one misses TikTok?

#87

I think there’s a lot of good reasons to ban TT… It’s in American security interests to limit CCP’s access to American location data and ability to pipe propaganda into our eyeballs. But setting the ban to go into effect one day before the next President takes office is brazenly political and undermines the actually-important problem that TikTok represents. When Twitter got weird, Bluesky was ready to come in as a to…

Instagram Reels and YouTube Shorts are already trying to replace TT and failing. They really are nowhere near as good.

Good at what ?

Re: What if no one misses TikTok?

#88
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure but what would that have to do with this action here? TikTok isn’t being banned because of free speech or not but because the usage of their algorithms allows the app to influence how Americans think about different issues. China has recognized this as a threat and as such has banned foreign adversary social media companies from operating within its borders. Likewise the United States has recognized that this is…

> the usage of their algorithms allows the app to influence how Americans think about different issues. Which, if true, means that the US has been influencing the rest of the world for the past 20 years through all the other social networks.

How is that even questionable ?

Re: What if no one misses TikTok?

#89

I'm not sure it's the right thing to ban TikTok, but I'm not surprised people aren't protesting in the streets. My feeling is that most people are addicted to these apps, not using them for the utility or pleasure they bring. These users have a deep down sense that they'd be better off without these apps. Instagram won't be banned, but if it were I think there might be a similar non-reaction.

> My feeling is that most people are addicted to these apps, not using them for the utility or pleasure they bring. ...I find it interesting to think about whether using something due to addiction means you wouldn't protest if it's forcibly taken away. In other words, I wonder if people would protest if cigarettes were banned.

Not many people would protest a cigarette ban because the effects of smoking are very visible.

Not many people will protest a TikTok ban because it's largely happening to someone else and not very many people care about issues of free speech, as long as it's not happening to them.

Re: What if no one misses TikTok?

#90

It’s totally insane that China can ban all American social networks on security concerns and ban all kinds of just basic speech on their apps, but banning a Chinese social network is so controversial.

Banning a media platform in America used by most Americans is controversial? Say it ain't so!
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