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What if no one misses TikTok?

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It’s totally insane that China can ban all American social networks on security concerns and ban all kinds of just basic speech on their apps, but banning a Chinese social network is so controversial.

In general I don’t think that’s insane at all.

There’s nothing inherently wrong with the idea that something that is normal in an authoritarian society is verboten and sacrilegious in a Democracy.

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#32

It’s totally insane that China can ban all American social networks on security concerns and ban all kinds of just basic speech on their apps, but banning a Chinese social network is so controversial.

China banned things for entirely different reasons. They want to control the information they don't like. TikTok is banned so that Chinese government can't do the same thing here and influence a very large percentage of the US population. Not saying they're doing it now, but in general I agree that the potential threat is there. You can already see how big is the social media influence on people, on their political views etc.

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Why is that insane? We should lead by example if we value free speech.

So if China would pay $100 a month to every teacher in the US to teach some subversive topic, would that also be ok? The issue here isn't free speech, but control over what content is promoted, unless you think the CCP has the right to free speech in the US.

Sorry, it is a free speech issue. TikTok is a gestalt product of the content on there.

Maybe Washington should figure out a way to make fewer "Foreign adversaries" so it doesn't have to subvert the fundamental rights of its citizens.

Re: What if no one misses TikTok?

#34

It’s totally insane that China can ban all American social networks on security concerns and ban all kinds of just basic speech on their apps, but banning a Chinese social network is so controversial.

China doesn't claim that free speech and personal freedom are part of their core values

This is a trade issue.

If Country A bans imports from Country B, it's entirely reasonable to respond in kind.

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This isn’t exaggeration btw. Gen Z is basically a cooked generation at this point.

Because we don't like what the US government and their corporate overlords are doing?

Imagine thinking the U.S. govt and corporate overlords are terrible because they’re banning TikTok and getting back at them by going to a Chinese app. China, the country which has a literal firewall preventing their people from getting information that isn’t vetted, bans nearly every external app because they don’t have control over it, and most ironically, never allowed TikTok, whose banning you think makes the U.S. govt terrible, in China in the first place.

It’s hilarious that all these Redpillers are going on about how they can now communicate with and learn from the Chinese people they’re meeting on Red Book without ever considering why they couldn’t meet those Chinese people on Tik Tok in the first place and coming to the conclusion that this shows that it was the U.S. govt that was bad…

Yeah, the lack of logical thinking in this one instance and your response to it only adds to the evidence that your generation is cooked.

Re: What if no one misses TikTok?

#36

I'm not sure it's the right thing to ban TikTok, but I'm not surprised people aren't protesting in the streets. My feeling is that most people are addicted to these apps, not using them for the utility or pleasure they bring. These users have a deep down sense that they'd be better off without these apps. Instagram won't be banned, but if it were I think there might be a similar non-reaction.

> My feeling is that most people are addicted to these apps, not using them for the utility or pleasure they bring. ...I find it interesting to think about whether using something due to addiction means you wouldn't protest if it's forcibly taken away. In other words, I wonder if people would protest if cigarettes were banned.

The smokers' rights movement is a thing, and they do protest, yes.

Re: What if no one misses TikTok?

#40

It’s totally insane that China can ban all American social networks on security concerns and ban all kinds of just basic speech on their apps, but banning a Chinese social network is so controversial.

I dunno, it feels pretty normal to be upset when a government which ostensibly represents me does something that I feel is actively against my interests.

I don't think that you have to decry every horrible thing in the world to be upset when folks do things that you don't like to you.

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