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I've been advocating for RSS support, and you should too

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Re: I've been advocating for RSS support, and you should too

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Post by ryan-duve »

pyromaker wrote: post #102

I absolutely love RSS format. It's one of the easiest ways for devs to get data and do something quickly with it. If you remember, Yahoo Pipies allowed devs & others quickly build something with RSS feeds. I've recently rebuilt and launched my own Yahoo Pipes clone https://www.mashups.io Along the way of building this tool, I came across a plenty of major websites that do not provide RSS feeds and indie devs who main…

Site feedback: when I drag "Popular sources" into the field, I see the options "YouTube" and "HackerNews". But when I click either I just see a blank modal. I'm using Firefox 135.

Re: I've been advocating for RSS support, and you should too

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Post by talideon »

ginko wrote: post #94

How would you even use RSS now that no browser supports it anymore? Do people run a separate RSS reader on the side?

Browsers have never really supported feeds. Even Firefox really only supported feed auto-discovery. There are extensions that implement feed readers, but browsers are ill suited to be feed readers. Most people who consume feeds do so via a dedicated feed reader, and there are plenty of online feed readers out there if you don't want a desktop one and plenty of services if you don't want to self-host. I self-host and use Miniflux personally.

Re: I've been advocating for RSS support, and you should too

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Post by magpi3 »

beretguy wrote: post #61
rplnt wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most people also decided it's a good idea to use browser from an advertising company. RSS is not good for business and it won't be provided.

> Most people also decide Most people didn't decide. Most people were tricked into using chrome. Most people are not computer literate.

I'm a teacher, and Google Classroom is ubiquitous in American schools. I was not tricked into using Chrome. It is without a doubt the best browser for Google Apps. Mozilla is laggy when editing documents and doesn't have an extension for offline editing.

Give Google credit: they have created a very useful ecosystem that has won people over in the marketplace. I NEVER thought anything would convince companies to move off of Microsoft Office, but Google is actually doing it (on a small scale at least).

Re: I've been advocating for RSS support, and you should too

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Post by mromanuk »

I used Feedly, tried several RSS clients, I was into RSS but content providers started to only give you a portion of the content, subverting the very idea of RSS (at least what I wanted), even some clients had (or have) the feature to download the content and present it to you with a clean RSS style. So I quit it, because it was a new tech arms race. Not sure how is all that now.

Re: I've been advocating for RSS support, and you should too

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Post by verisimi »

_Algernon_ wrote: post #76
beretguy wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most people also decide Most people didn't decide. Most people were tricked into using chrome. Most people are not computer literate.

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Yes, this is true. But then nefarious tricks by tech companies aren't exactly punished. Eg google itself attempted to kill rss, by massively supporting it then dropping it. This is not an illegal or punishable offence (it is immoral imo), but illustrates the point that these companies attempt to sculpt the reality, to train people into compromise. It can't be a one way street only, where individuals have to fend for themselves, but corporations can try every trick to get their way.

Re: I've been advocating for RSS support, and you should too

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Post by magpi3 »

palata wrote: post #10

I have been doing that for plaintext emails. Whenever I receive an HTML-only email (that my email reader cannot open), I send a kind email to the company, asking if they could consider adding a plaintext version next to it. I clearly explain that they can keep the HTML version as a default, and that some people need plaintext for accessibility and security reasons. I often receive answers, that surprised me! People s…

Honest question: wouldn't it be simpler for text-only email readers to have plugins that runs HTML-only emails through a command that converts the HTML to text?

Re: I've been advocating for RSS support, and you should too

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Post by bluebarbet »

domysee wrote: post #137
rook1e_dev wrote: post #11

RSS is my main source of information. And I've built some RSS-related projects: 1. https://github.com/0x2E/fusion - A lightweight, self-hosted friendly RSS aggregator and reader 2. https://rawweb.org/ - A search engine for indie websites (the crawler collects data from RSS feeds) 3. https://github.com/0x2E/rss-finder - A tool for finding the RSS link of a website

Same for me, and would like to add my own list 1. https://lighthouseapp.io/ - feed reader combined with bookmarking 2. https://lighthouseapp.io/tools/feed-finder - tool to find RSS feeds ( https://lighthouseapp.io/blog/deep-dive-finding-rss-feeds ) 3. https://lighthouseapp.io/tools/newsletter-to-rss - tool to convert newsletters to RSS feeds

Also: https://kill-the-newsletter.com for use case 3. Free service with no signup that works reliably.

Re: I've been advocating for RSS support, and you should too

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Post by fsflover »

_Algernon_ wrote: post #120
latexr wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not everyone has the time, inclination, patience, or opportunity to “be informed” about all the shit every tech company does. It’s exhausting even for tech-literate people. Have some empathy.

The bar isnt keeping up with shit every tech company does. The bar is knowing what a directory or file is. Yes, the bar is that low. https://www.forbes.com/consent/ketch/?toURL=https://www.forb... If people arent functioning because they choose to refuse to learn to read or write, you wouldn't defend them. Why is it different for computers? Computers are just as important for functioning in society today as being abl…

> The bar is knowing what a directory or file is.

How do you learn than on an iPhone?

Re: I've been advocating for RSS support, and you should too

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Post by kmfrk »

I was happy to see Bluesky supporting RSS on all profiles, but less excited to see that there's nothing in the content and title fields:

https://github.com/bluesky-social/social-app/issues/3384

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:3nfshkzomgboapasu6amkhui/rs...

Obviously I can see why they don't want to subsidize the entire internet with high-res videos and images, but a blank RSS feed for media isn't the way to go.

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