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I don't think microwave is "closer to the speed of light" than.. light.
Electromagnetic radiation is about 1.5 times faster in air than in glass (depending on wavelength a bit).
I also don't see anything addressing the "1 external IP for n number of people" being addressed.
It's also a bit bizarre to have multiple references to "the speed of light" when this wouldn't work for someone remote desktopping in
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Yes, and also, I'd argue that anonymizing your location is a sacred feature of the internet that anytime someone builds a better mousetrap we WILL build a better mouse. The internet is not a place where requiring proof of location is welcome. For online polls, it should never be necessary, either: My rights to vote somewhere should depend only on my membership status to that somewhere, and not my current physical loc…
This is similar to the argument the failed experiment 4Chan showed the internet. Being fully anonymous, the best arguments don't rise to the top, bad actors lie and lie and when confronted with their lies, they just pretend to be someone else and lie some more. All completely anonymous online polls are effectively useless. It's nice to have some research in helping them be a little less useless.
Completely anonymous online polls are impossible, I'm thinking the goal is to have effectively non-publicly identifiable polling with the ability to disallow double voting. Seems absolutely trivial if Every Relevant Citizen was set up with their own API / digi-thumbprint.
> Latency-based geolocation can help protect poll integrity by: > Detecting when poll responses originate from outside the intended geographic region > Identifying attempts to manipulate polls through elevated VPN/proxy usage Unless the user also needs to complete a reaction-time test, couldn't this be defeated by using a remote desktop connection to a machine that is physically located in the other geography? It jus…
My state lottery app doesn’t let you play outside the state. It detects screen sharing and VPN configuration and refuses to run if it sees these things. Depending on the importance of the poll, one could definitely apply these other requirements.
By this logic every government gives a uniquely IDable device to its citizenry for engaging polls.
Besides ... if it was "important enough" to break, getting around geofencing etc. is a trivial/already solved part of this.
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Yesterday I fought off someone/something doing Chinese language crypto-blogspam on my website. Ip-addresses were all unique (mixed ipv4&ipv6), but all were 'located' within 100km of my server in central Europe. If crypto-scammers can bypass geo-restrictions for blogspam, I'm confident that state-level actors can do that even better for geopolitics.
Did you read the article? It's not about using IP addresses...
...which is what fails via 100 methods. I personally can't believe this is omitting addressing the things that would basically ruin this.
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This is similar to the argument the failed experiment 4Chan showed the internet. Being fully anonymous, the best arguments don't rise to the top, bad actors lie and lie and when confronted with their lies, they just pretend to be someone else and lie some more. All completely anonymous online polls are effectively useless. It's nice to have some research in helping them be a little less useless.
I'd love to see your documentation on where it was ever claimed that 4chan was an experiment in anonymity creating a usable filter for quality? Completely anonymous online polls are impossible, I'm thinking the goal is to have effectively non-publicly identifiable polling with the ability to disallow double voting. Seems absolutely trivial if Every Relevant Citizen was set up with their own API / digi-thumbprint.
This feels grossly incomplete, and not a barrier to an attack of even remedial sophistication. ie, low latency from any given machine doesn't have any relationship to external controlling connections to the machine. I also don't see anything addressing the "1 external IP for n number of people" being addressed. It's also a bit bizarre to have multiple references to "the speed of light" when this wouldn't work for som…
> Key Advantages: [...] Can provide supportive evidence for VPN/proxy usage, when the latency is too high for all server locations I'm reading through the description, but I'm having trouble understanding the difference between a client having a higher overall latency due to bandwidth/connectivity concerns (e.g. a 3G phone) versus using a VPN. Both would have increased timings and the clock skew would be similar. Wou…
It would be nice if there was a standalone POC for the geolocation. I only found the vote website. There, one can enable the latency geolocation feature - but it doesn't display any results (it shows latency to various servers but not any analysis thereof).