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I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by ochameau »

Klaster_1 wrote: post #36
Trasmatta wrote: post #5

How are the Firefox dev tools these days? Every time I've tried in the past I end up missing the Chrome dev tools, and it's too much of a pain to have one browser for development and one for browsing. I would love to switch, though.

Depends on what you are used to. Since FF is my main, I try to use it for my pet projects. However, I always start a Chrome instance after several minutes because of two extremely jarring behaviors: 1. "Pause breakpoints" gets unchecked after app rebuilds and/or restarts. 2. The Ctrl+P hotkey only works on the sources tab, unlike Chrome. I just can't bear to always keep in mind what tab I'm on when using a hotkey.

Note that the "Pause breakpoints" [1] should be fixed in the next release, Firefox 135, which should ship on February 4.

Regarding Ctrl+P, there is a bug on file [2], we could easily make it so that it switches to debugger and open that search-for-file UI from there. Showing this UI on top of any panel would be a much more involved change.

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1933764 [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1409544

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by dang »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #192
Workaccount2 wrote: post #129

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Of course this a personal attack. You can't post like this to HN, and we have to ban accounts that do, so please don't.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by Klaster_1 »

ochameau wrote: post #521
Klaster_1 wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on what you are used to. Since FF is my main, I try to use it for my pet projects. However, I always start a Chrome instance after several minutes because of two extremely jarring behaviors: 1. "Pause breakpoints" gets unchecked after app rebuilds and/or restarts. 2. The Ctrl+P hotkey only works on the sources tab, unlike Chrome. I just can't bear to always keep in mind what tab I'm on when using a hotkey.

Note that the "Pause breakpoints" [1] should be fixed in the next release, Firefox 135, which should ship on February 4. Regarding Ctrl+P, there is a bug on file [2], we could easily make it so that it switches to debugger and open that search-for-file UI from there. Showing this UI on top of any panel would be a much more involved change. [1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1933764 [2] https://bugzilla.…

Wow, I didn't expect such a precise reply! Thank you.

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by settsu »

dizhn wrote: post #438
settsu wrote: post #403

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> ...the IE6 conditions of yore... I'm sorry, but comparing modern Safari to the worst software ever widely used is just not remotely reasonable.

IMO Netscap on Linux was worse. Maybe it was already Firefox by that point? I don't remember. But I do remember the crashes. It crashed so cleanly too. One second you had a browser and the next you didn't. I don't know if I am rewriting history but when Chrome came out it felt like Google went "hold my beer" and in 6 months developed the first decent browser.

I'm speaking to depths of despair and mass of devastation, for which IE6 has no equal.

I can imagine the 7 people who used Netscape on Linux were very annoyed every so often.

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by lippihom »

ustad wrote: post #23

Currently the main attack facing Firefox is coming from advertising companies such as YouTube. It’s crazy to think that some software engineers might actually intentionally degrade user experience on non-Google browsers or for people using adblockers. The mentality here is pretty disturbing: it’s almost like punishing users for making the choice to browse the web without ads, or without the surveillance mechanisms th…

YouTube is totally bricked for me on Firefox, and the quality of use of Gmail + anything Google Drive related has degraded severely over the past ~year. Feels concerted.

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by ochameau »

Stagnant wrote: post #219
shayneo wrote: post #121

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I actually have the exact opposite experience when I try out Chromium based browsers. I end up missing FF dev tools. I love the ability to edit and resend network requests. I'm sure I could figure out how do to so in Chrome devtools, but just not as intuitive (at least to me!)

For me it depends on what I'm doing. I too like the edit and resend ability in firefox dev tools but what I've found it lacking is the option to automatically open dev tools for pop ups, which is possible in chrome.

There is a beginning of solution for popups in Firefox DevTools.

You can toggle `devtools.popups.debug` preference [1] to true in about:config and DevTools should open on popups.

Unfortunately, there is some limitations, highlighted at the end of that bugzilla entry. It won't work for , while it should work for window.open usages.

[1] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1569859

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by pkphilip »

extraduder_ire wrote: post #60
pkphilip wrote: post #38

Unfortunately, I have had to move in the opposite direction. I have been a Firefox user for more than a decade but after an upgrade to Linux Mint 22 I have had very regular crashes on Firefox which took the entire computer down and so now I am on Brave which seems to be so much faster.

Have you tried a clean install of firefox? A separate profile even. A lot of people switching to another browser and finding it much more performant/stable is just them starting with a default browser with minimal addons.

Yes, it was a clean install. I had reinstalled even the OS from scratch

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by Ferret7446 »

segasaturn wrote: post #371
jshen wrote: post #355

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Don't like YouTube's ads, great don't use it. You aren't entitled to get it for free though.

Google isn't entitled to invade my privacy, harvest my data and waste my time with ads. Installing an adblocker isn't an act of entitlement, it's an act of self-defense.

They are if you use their service. You agree to their terms when you want the services they provide. Of course, you can violate the terms of service, but that puts you in the wrong legally and potentially morally, depending on your specific moral values.

You aren't entitled to their service, but they are entitled to your data (as allowed under the relevant jurisdiction) if you choose, of your own volition, to use their service.

Re: I Switched to Firefox and Never Looked Back

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Post by Ferret7446 »

ustad wrote: post #23

Currently the main attack facing Firefox is coming from advertising companies such as YouTube. It’s crazy to think that some software engineers might actually intentionally degrade user experience on non-Google browsers or for people using adblockers. The mentality here is pretty disturbing: it’s almost like punishing users for making the choice to browse the web without ads, or without the surveillance mechanisms th…

"such as YouTube?"

Mozilla is an advertising company now, and by many accounts Mozilla has been the main attack on Firefox for the many years even before they explicitly shifted to advertising.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/advertising/

https://www.reddit.com/r/browsers/comments/1e0p62h/mozilla_i...

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